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DonFerrari said:
JuliusHackebeil said:

Death Stranding over Alyx is really a surprise.
TLoU2 sweeping is not, but totally undiserved.
The characters do feel human and beliefable, but I could not enjoy the story at all. What they did was obvious and heavy handed. There were mature things happening, but the story felt kiddy and full of missed opportunities.

If it was so obvious why so many were confused on what happened and pissed about it?

I did not know that many people were confused because of TLoU2. It seemed easy enough to follow.

There are on the other hand many reasons why people were pissed about it. Like Joel not having a bigger part in the game, or playing as somebody they hated, or running over such a short span of time that no meaningful relationships could form, or sidestories that were not well received, etc. Not saying these are my reasons.

Also, you seem to suggest that the game being obvious and people being pissed about it are mutually exclusive. I do not think so. To me, a game can easily be all three things we brought up: obvious, infuriating, and even confusing.

Why did I call it obvious (some spoilers, be warned): it was clear from the very beginning that the fireflies would be a big part of the game. How those people are designed immediately gave the impression that they are more important than your throw away goon. Also you already play as Abby in the first hour of the game. And she was the focal point of one of their biggest trailers (their marketing). Long story short: yeah, it was obvious that they were trying to paint a group of people as evil just to later reveal that they are, in fact, human, and that there is always another side to things, and that forgiving is hard, blah, blah, blah. I just had to roll my eyes so much. Really boring masseging.

And dont get me wrong. TLoU2 is in many ways a daring game. Just not at all where it would have mattered to me. I'm glad that many were able to enjoy it. 



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GameOverture said:

I like TLoU2 a lot, it's probably my game of the year as well, but how can anyone take an award show seriously when there's an award for "Most Wanted Game"?
I mean, c'mon guys...

Most wanted or most anticipated awards are incredibly common. What's the problem with that?

I take issue in the fact they're giving awards for 2020 when the year isn't even over yet. We're not even in the last month of the year. Cyberpunk should've been eligible for awards too, it's a 2020 game! I know it'll probably win stuff next year, but that will be a false win since it's not a 2021 game and it will be robbing games that actually release in 2021 of potential awards.



TLoU2 is easily this year's best game.
Should win lots of awards.



PlayStation dominating the popularity contest. TLOU2 hate isn't as wide spread as people want you to believe.



JuliusHackebeil said:
DonFerrari said:

If it was so obvious why so many were confused on what happened and pissed about it?

I did not know that many people were confused because of TLoU2. It seemed easy enough to follow.

There are on the other hand many reasons why people were pissed about it. Like Joel not having a bigger part in the game, or playing as somebody they hated, or running over such a short span of time that no meaningful relationships could form, or sidestories that were not well received, etc. Not saying these are my reasons.

Also, you seem to suggest that the game being obvious and people being pissed about it are mutually exclusive. I do not think so. To me, a game can easily be all three things we brought up: obvious, infuriating, and even confusing.

Why did I call it obvious (some spoilers, be warned): it was clear from the very beginning that the fireflies would be a big part of the game. How those people are designed immediately gave the impression that they are more important than your throw away goon. Also you already play as Abby in the first hour of the game. And she was the focal point of one of their biggest trailers (their marketing). Long story short: yeah, it was obvious that they were trying to paint a group of people as evil just to later reveal that they are, in fact, human, and that there is always another side to things, and that forgiving is hard, blah, blah, blah. I just had to roll my eyes so much. Really boring masseging.

And dont get me wrong. TLoU2 is in many ways a daring game. Just not at all where it would have mattered to me. I'm glad that many were able to enjoy it. 

In the threads discussing TLOU2 it was said the game was confusing and that they needed to make the story aligned in timeline, like have all flash backs first and them alternate between Ellie and Abby first day, second day, etc, until their confrontation.

Sure obvious and pissed aren't mutually exclusive. But being confusing and obvious are a hard match.

For me it was even more obvious because from TLOU1 it was already expected that Joel would die (and Sony not talking about him until the eve of launch, was even more evidence he wouldn't be on the game and it would be the story of Ellie). Many people even guessed Ellie would discover the truth and would either kill or abandon Joel long before TLOU2 was officially confirmed (and the poster of the guitar was the last evidence they needed that Joel wouldn't be present anymore).

I don't get upset about stories being obvious because 99% of the time I get the ending in my head right with like 20-30% of the story told or less. Sure that makes me all the more happy when my expectations is subverted, hardly I get pissed that something I expected didn't happen, and even if I get a little sad a char I liked died if the reason was good for the story I accept it. And well in RL sometimes people just die without any previous signal or reason.



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Barkley said:

PlayStation dominating the popularity contest. TLOU2 hate isn't as wide spread as people want you to believe.

If we were to take this poll as representative, we'd have to conclude that the PC got nothing better than Death Stranding in 2020. But seeing how Death Stranding could win PC game of the year, it's much more sensible to conclude that these awards have about as much value as Famitsu's Most Wanted lists.

...

As for the posts which celebrate this as a win against the haters, they are quick to forget that TLoU Part II is struggling in sales. Haters continue to have it easy with this game and they won't even have to bring up any non-Sony games. Ghost of Tsushima is a better game than TLoU Part II, but it didn't win any of these awards. Sales tell a better story than votes in a popularity contest.



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Let's be real here, was a PC game like Alyx ever, and I mean ever going to win anything, let alone GOTY?.

It wasn't, it never would and never will, because these award shindigs are always stacked for either Sony and sometimes Nintendo or some rando third party game that just happens to hail from the land of the Rising Sun.

I always had an inkling that TLOU2 was going to win, just like how I have that same feeling a Sony game is going to win the GOTY on this very site, because it happens practically every year and nowt changes, because of how it's stacked.


Also, Death Stranding PC GOTY: ayyy L M A O. 

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RolStoppable said:
Barkley said:

PlayStation dominating the popularity contest. TLOU2 hate isn't as wide spread as people want you to believe.

If we were to take this poll as representative, we'd have to conclude that the PC got nothing better than Death Stranding in 2020. But seeing how Death Stranding could win PC game of the year, it's much more sensible to conclude that these awards have about as much value as Famitsu's Most Wanted lists.

...

As for the posts which celebrate this as a win against the haters, they are quick to forget that TLoU Part II is struggling in sales. Haters continue to have it easy with this game and they won't even have to bring up any non-Sony games. Ghost of Tsushima is a better game than TLoU Part II, but it didn't win any of these awards. Sales tell a better story than votes in a popularity contest.

Lmao , how do you even know who is the better game. Did you even played half a minute of  tlous 2 or ghosts? 

OT , loving all these awards, the salt and all the complaining. 

This is just the start 😚



 

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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
RolStoppable said:

If we were to take this poll as representative, we'd have to conclude that the PC got nothing better than Death Stranding in 2020. But seeing how Death Stranding could win PC game of the year, it's much more sensible to conclude that these awards have about as much value as Famitsu's Most Wanted lists.

...

As for the posts which celebrate this as a win against the haters, they are quick to forget that TLoU Part II is struggling in sales. Haters continue to have it easy with this game and they won't even have to bring up any non-Sony games. Ghost of Tsushima is a better game than TLoU Part II, but it didn't win any of these awards. Sales tell a better story than votes in a popularity contest.

Lmao , how do you even know who is the better game. Did you even played half a minute of  tlous 2 or ghosts? 

(...)

The same way that I know that Ori and the Will of Wisps is a much better game than Trine 4. I can tell.



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