2020 Golden Joystick Awards- The Last of Us 2 Wins Ultimate Game of the Year!

[DonFerrari]

JuliusHackebeil said:

DonFerrari said:

If it was so obvious why so many were confused on what happened and pissed about it?

I did not know that many people were confused because of TLoU2. It seemed easy enough to follow.

There are on the other hand many reasons why people were pissed about it. Like Joel not having a bigger part in the game, or playing as somebody they hated, or running over such a short span of time that no meaningful relationships could form, or sidestories that were not well received, etc. Not saying these are my reasons.

Also, you seem to suggest that the game being obvious and people being pissed about it are mutually exclusive. I do not think so. To me, a game can easily be all three things we brought up: obvious, infuriating, and even confusing.

Why did I call it obvious (some spoilers, be warned): it was clear from the very beginning that the fireflies would be a big part of the game. How those people are designed immediately gave the impression that they are more important than your throw away goon. Also you already play as Abby in the first hour of the game. And she was the focal point of one of their biggest trailers (their marketing). Long story short: yeah, it was obvious that they were trying to paint a group of people as evil just to later reveal that they are, in fact, human, and that there is always another side to things, and that forgiving is hard, blah, blah, blah. I just had to roll my eyes so much. Really boring masseging.

And dont get me wrong. TLoU2 is in many ways a daring game. Just not at all where it would have mattered to me. I'm glad that many were able to enjoy it. 

In the threads discussing TLOU2 it was said the game was confusing and that they needed to make the story aligned in timeline, like have all flash backs first and them alternate between Ellie and Abby first day, second day, etc, until their confrontation.

Sure obvious and pissed aren't mutually exclusive. But being confusing and obvious are a hard match.

For me it was even more obvious because from TLOU1 it was already expected that Joel would die (and Sony not talking about him until the eve of launch, was even more evidence he wouldn't be on the game and it would be the story of Ellie). Many people even guessed Ellie would discover the truth and would either kill or abandon Joel long before TLOU2 was officially confirmed (and the poster of the guitar was the last evidence they needed that Joel wouldn't be present anymore).

I don't get upset about stories being obvious because 99% of the time I get the ending in my head right with like 20-30% of the story told or less. Sure that makes me all the more happy when my expectations is subverted, hardly I get pissed that something I expected didn't happen, and even if I get a little sad a char I liked died if the reason was good for the story I accept it. And well in RL sometimes people just die without any previous signal or reason.