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Forums - Sales Discussion - Famitsu Sales: Week 46, 2020 (Nov 09 - Nov 15)

Can ps5 just play PS4 games like XSeX can for Xbone?



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well seems like rick was right, its actually here now



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Top 30: https://nintendoeverything.com/famitsu-software-sales-11-9-20-11-15-20-top-30/

1. [PS4] Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War – 84,475 / NEW
2. [PS4] Assassin’s Creed Valhalla – 45,055 / NEW
3. [NSW] Sakuna: Of Rice and Ruin – 32,906 / NEW
4. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons – 32,585 / 5,974,018
5. [NSW] Pikmin 3 Deluxe – 31,073 / 270,347
6. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure – 24,115 / 1,807,723
7. [PS4] Sakuna: Of Rice and ruin – 22,955 / NEW
8. [PS4] Marvel’s Spider Man: Miles Morales – 22,882 / NEW
9. [NSW] Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory – 22,813 / NEW
10. [PS5] Marvel’s Spider-Man: Miles Morales – 18,640 / NEW

11. [PS5] Demon’s Souls – 18,607 / NEW
12. [NSW] Medabots Classics Plus – 18,492 / NEW
13. [PS4] Kingdom Hearts: Melody of Memory – 18,120 / NEW
14. [NSW] Pokemon Sword/Shield + Expansion Pass – 12,986 / 31,624
15. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe – 10,390 / 3,261,225
16. [NSW] Piofiore: Episodio 1926 – 8,528 / NEW
17. [NSW] Minecraft – 7,545 / 1,559,387
18. [NSW] Super Mario 3D All-Stars – 6,132 / 379,303
19. [PS5] Call of Duty: Black Ops Cold War – 6,05 / NEW
20. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate – 5,352 / 3,877,266
21. [PS5] Godfall – 5,342 / NEW
22. [NSW] Pokemon Sword/Shield – 4,922 / 3,795,705
23. [NSW] Splatoon 2 – 4,628 / 3,601,538
24. [NSW] Super Mario Party – 4,615 / 1,596,020
25. [PS5] Assassin’s Creed Valhalla – 4,227 / NEW
26. [NSW] Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics – 4,051 / 424,777
28. [NSW] Shadowverse: Champion’s Battle – 3,816 / 17,687
29. [NSW] Zelda: Breath of the Wild – 3,802 / 1,680,705
30. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe – 3,261 / 926,256

NS - 20

PS4 - 5

PS5 - 5

Last edited by curl-6 - on 19 November 2020

heavenmercenary01 said:
A Bad kingdom hearts has already shown that there is a demand on the franchise on switch, by outselling the PS4 version.But square doesnt want to hear anything.

I think their biggest concearn is cartridges. It's the only thing that I could see being an issue. 1.5 + 2.5 alone already sits at almost 50gb after all... 



curl-6 said:

There's definitely a market for third parties on Switch, contrary to stereotype.

Yeah nobody still believes there is no market for 3rd parties on the Switch, even EA made efforts



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TOTAL SALES BY PUBLISHER IN JAPAN SINCE 1983 (only single platform games which sold-in more than 1 million units*)

* Note:
- Only games which have shipped more than 1 million units on a single platform are considered, exception to the single platform rule were made for Dragon Quest XI (3DS / PS4) and Final Fantasy XV ( PS4 / XBO) .
- There are some not up to date figures like Monster Hunter World and Dragon Quest XI and Minecraft is missing (that's why Microsoft / Mojang doesn't appear in the list).
Overall though it's a very close representation of all the console games which have sold-in more than > 1 million units in Japan since 1983 (again the the single platform rule).
- Since for a long time the industry consolidated into bigger entities (though acquisitions, mergers and other form of direct control) I've decided to group the historical publishers which delivered a million seller under their current publishing house.
I've specified which historical publisher were included within parenthesis.

Some tidbits:
- Wow they represent more than half billion games sold in Japan!
- More than half of the pie is owned by Nintendo. It's also the publisher with the highest number of games and at the same time the highest average sales per million seller.
- Pokemon Co. alone account for 49.05 million units sold.
- SIE last million seller in Japan was the PSV version of Minecraft but since Minecraft sales data isn't included the last million seller from the above data is from the PS2 era when it was still known as SCE.
- Some publisher like Jaleco and BPS Co got their single million seller during the dawn of the industry and now practically don't exist anymore (at best other company own their IP rights or became simple IPs holder).
- The more recent publishers to join the club were either companies which achieved great success on mobile and then translated the popularity to a console game (GungHo Online and Mixi both for 3DS) and Level-5 which produced a couple of very successful kid oriented franchises on DS and 3DS.

https://www.resetera.com/threads/media-create-sales-week-46-2020-nov-09-nov-15.329204/page-7#post-52012628



SKMBlake said:
curl-6 said:

There's definitely a market for third parties on Switch, contrary to stereotype.

Yeah nobody still believes there is no market for 3rd parties on the Switch, even EA made efforts

Perhaps instead of "stereotype" I should have said "the haters". :P



Famitsu 2020 Top 50:

  1. NSW: Animal Crossing: New Horizons (Nintendo) - 5.974.018
  2. NSW: Ring Fit Adventure (Nintendo) - 1.312.084
  3. PS4: Final Fantasy VII Remake (Square) - 932.821
  4. NSW: Pokemon Sword / Shield (Pokemon Co) - 839.195*
  5. NSW: Mario Kart 8 Deluxe (Nintendo) - 602.216
  6. NSW: Clubhouse Games: 51 Worldwide Classics (Nintendo) - 424.777
  7. NSW: Smash Ultimate (Nintendo) - 424.214
  8. NSW: Minecraft (Microsoft) - 413.448 (+1)
  9. PS4: Ghost of Tsushima (Sony) - 412.868 (-1)
  10. NSW: Super Mario 3D All-Stars (Nintendo) - 379.303
  11. NSW: Splatoon 2 (Nintendo) - 348.778
  12. NSW: Super Mario Party (Nintendo) - 332.310
  13. NSW: Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch (Nintendo) - 281.535
  14. NSW: Pikmin 3 Deluxe (Nintendo) - 270.347 (+5)
  15. NSW: Paper Mario: The Origami King (Nintendo) - 267.743 (-1)
  16. NSW: Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX (Pokemon Co.) - 259.513 (-1)
  17. PS4: Resident Evil 3 (Capcom) - 258.676 (-1)
  18. PS4: Yakuza 7: Like a Dragon (Sega) - 243.769 (-1)
  19. NSW: eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 (Konami) - 237.550 
  20. PS4: The Last of Us Part II (Sony) - 222.943 
  21. NSW: The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild (Nintendo) - 199.356
  22. NSW: Luigi's Mansion 3 (Nintendo) - 187.050 
  23. NSW: Super Mario Maker 2 (Nintendo) - 182.669
  24. PS4: eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 (Konami) - 180.243 
  25. NSW: New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe (Nintendo) - 178.627
  26. NSW: Fishing Spirits (Bandai Namco) - 167.246
  27. PS4: Mobile Suit Gundam: Extreme Vs. MaxiBoost On (Bandai Namco Games) - 161.014
  28. PS4: Nioh 2 (Koei Tecmo) - 156.772
  29. PS4: Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers (Atlus) - 149.898 
  30. PS4: Dragon Ball Z: Kakarot (Bandai) - 149.654 
  31. NSW: Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 (Sega) - 138.550
  32. PS4: Trials of Mana (Square) - 133.593 
  33. PS4: One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 (Bandai) - 131.315 
  34. NSW: Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition (Nintendo) - 128.989 
  35. NSW: One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 (Bandai Namco) - 117.954 
  36. PS4: Granblue Fantasy Versus (Cygames) - 111.094 
  37. NSW: Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco) - 101.707
  38. NSW: Trials of Mana (Square Enix) - 100.451 
  39. PS4: The Legend of Heroes: Hajimari no Kiseki (Nihon Falcom) - 96.140 
  40. NSW: Super Mario Odyssey (Nintendo) - 92.587
  41. NSW: Mario Kart Live: Home Circuit (Nintendo) - 90.468
  42. PS4: Sword Art Online: Alicization Lycoris (Bandai) - 85.010 
  43. PS4 Call of Duty: Black Ops - Cold War (Sony) - 84.475 (NEW)
  44. NSW: Dragon Quest XI S (Square Enix) - 82.137 (-1)
  45. NSW: Hatsune Miku: Project Diva MegaMix (Sega) - 78.558 (-1)
  46. NSW: Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers (Atlus) - 65.653 (-1)
  47. PS4: Marvel's Avengers (Square Enix) - 64.255 (-1)
  48. PS4: Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne (Capcom) - 63.322 (-1)
  49. NSW: Fitness Boxing (Imagineer) - 62.949 (-1)
  50. NSW: Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne (Atlus) - 59.549 (-1)

NSW: 33

PS4: 17

  • CoD: Cold War is the the last PS game we will likely see in the Top 50 this year
  • Currently the 50th place game is at 60K, by the end of the year it will be over 120K
  • Its looking very likely that only around 10 PS4 games will be in the Top 50
  • Age of Calamity, Momotaro are looking like they will be in the Top 20 
  • Sekiro was the 20th best selling game last year with 267.666, this year it's looking like a game needs around 350K to be in the Top 20


PS5 numbers aren't good numbers but the market needed that fresh blood let's hope it can at least achieve 10M lifetime sales in Japan



Famitsu Switch 3rd Parties 2020 Top 15:

  1. Minecraft (Microsoft) - 413.448 
  2. eBaseball Powerful Pro Baseball 2020 (Konami) - 237.550 
  3. Fishing Spirits (Bandai Namco) - 167.246
  4. Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games: Tokyo 2020 (Sega) - 138.550
  5. One Piece: Pirate Warriors 4 (Bandai Namco) - 117.954 
  6. Taiko no Tatsujin: Drum 'n' Fun! (Bandai Namco) - 101.707
  7. Trials of Mana (Square Enix) - 100.451 
  8. Dragon Quest XI S (Square Enix) - 82.137 
  9. Hatsune Miku: Project Diva MegaMix (Sega) - 78.558 
  10. Persona 5 Scramble: The Phantom Strikers (Atlus) - 65.653
  11. Fitness Boxing (Imagineer) - 62.949 
  12. Shin Megami Tensei III: Nocturne (Atlus) - 59.549 
  13. Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Remastered Edition (Square Enix) - 56.187
  14. Human: Fall Flat (Teyon Japan) - 47.736
  15. Minecraft Dungeons (Microsoft) - 41.437

TOTAL: 1.771.112

  1. Microsoft - 454.885
  2. Bandai Namco - 386.907
  3. Square Enix - 238.775
  4. Konami - 237.550 
  5. Sega - 217.108
  6. Atlus - 125.202

  • Next week Koei enters the chart with Age of Calamity, with Atelier 2 they will easily surpass Square Enix and Sega this year
  • Konami will be the top selling 3rd Party as Momotaro and eBaseball are very likely to surpass 900K combined
  • Microsoft are very likely to be in 2nd place because Minecraft is looking very likely to finish the year with around 600K
  • Derby Stallion, Human: Fall Flat, Sakuna, Taiko & Fit Boxing 2 are the other games that will impact the Top 15