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curl-6 said:
DonFerrari said:

Nope it isn't zoomed in, that + is just because it recognizes that the source have more pixels than your monitor can show, so the first show is using a "fit the screen" size, which is zoomed out. When you click the + it show how it would look if you were looking on a proper resolution display. So you basically are switching things.

You are not zooming in the image, you just had it zoomed out from start

If it fills my screen, then it is full size, neither zoomed in nor out.

When I look at 720p content on this same screen, at screen-filling size, it looks nowhere near as pixelated as the pic in question.

Stop being stubborn man.

A 720p monitor showing a 720p picture will be natural size when using full screen.

If you use the same 720p monitor to show a 4k picture it will crush everything to downsample so you will lose to much detail that you may not see a diference against that same other 720p image, but if you allow you to show a 1:1 (or as you insist in call zoom in) then you'll see a lot of difference.

But if you prefer to look at a better comparison, pick up a 4k monitor and look both pictures, the 4k image will fill the whole screen, the 720p will only cover 1/9 of the screen (then yes if you ask it to do full screen you'll have a zoom in) and it will look terrible, but you wouldn't game using 1/9 of the screen so that how a 720p image shows on a 4k screen.

And of course you haven't really seem a big leap in 4k screens in store, most of the time they aren't even showing 4k content.

You are basically doing confirmation bias, putting yourself in situations that you can't see a difference and saying the ones that you can see the difference are wrong, when it is actually the opposite. The ones you see the difference are the right way to compare.



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SvennoJ said:

I still have an old test from last gen, can you tell which is 540p upscaled and which 1080p native, should be easy

TBH when viewed here without opening up the picture in a full screen (the tiny shrunk vgc) picture frame, its hard to notice a differnce.
As soon as you open the pic up, and look at it in full side, its very apparent.

about the WoW pictures.
I didnt even bother opening them up (full size, full screen).
Even on the lower shrunk down size in vgc forum, you can still tell theres a differnce.



DonFerrari said:
curl-6 said:

If it fills my screen, then it is full size, neither zoomed in nor out.

When I look at 720p content on this same screen, at screen-filling size, it looks nowhere near as pixelated as the pic in question.

Stop being stubborn man.

A 720p monitor showing a 720p picture will be natural size when using full screen.

If you use the same 720p monitor to show a 4k picture it will crush everything to downsample so you will lose to much detail that you may not see a diference against that same other 720p image, but if you allow you to show a 1:1 (or as you insist in call zoom in) then you'll see a lot of difference.

But if you prefer to look at a better comparison, pick up a 4k monitor and look both pictures, the 4k image will fill the whole screen, the 720p will only cover 1/9 of the screen (then yes if you ask it to do full screen you'll have a zoom in) and it will look terrible, but you wouldn't game using 1/9 of the screen so that how a 720p image shows on a 4k screen.

And of course you haven't really seem a big leap in 4k screens in store, most of the time they aren't even showing 4k content.

You are basically doing confirmation bias, putting yourself in situations that you can't see a difference and saying the ones that you can see the difference are wrong, when it is actually the opposite. The ones you see the difference are the right way to compare.

Making it so that the middle 1/9th of the screen fills my monitor only tells me what the difference would be if I either had a huge screen or put my face right up close to it.

I'm perfectly content with sitting 3 meters back from a 47" 1080p screen, and much like the 720p vs 1080p debates of 2013, I honestly just find the whole 4K thing to be overblown. That's just my personal opinion.



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