If meta is all you care about than Half Life Alyx sits on a 93 meta as well, with much better User reviews to top it off. I also wouldnt count Animal Crossing out this year. 

Alot of Star Wars fans dont like The Last Jedi or the new trilogy, in saying that, there not bad movies, they just dont live up to being masterpieces and the old movies. Plus the new films offer plenty of plot holes in the story, similar to TLOU2 and the directon and decisions made.

Neil liking the new Star Wars films says alot. In technical terms, the new movies use state of the art CGI just like TLOU2 with its tech, however both stories took a massive nose dive to the point people lost interest in the direction. 

I am one of those Star Wars fans that has been disapointed with the new films and the treatment of fan favourite characters.. this sounds like a familar issue that TLOU2 had.

I feel this game is held up by the brand power than the actual game itself. Anyway, its all opinions in the end and nothing more than 1st world country debates.

I will just mention that outside of the visual effects that were groundbreaking for the time, the Star Wars movies have never been considered masterpieces. 

Sorry, but I'm going to have to say something about this.  It really annoys me how you could be as smug and arrogant to assume that anyone who didn't like the game was too dumb to understand it.

Could you at least try to understand that people might value different things than you do or might see something you don't?  I'm fine with people liking the game even though I hated the story.  Just be a little more respectful, please

If meta is all you care about than Half Life Alyx sits on a 93 meta as well, with much better User reviews to top it off. I also wouldnt count Animal Crossing out this year. 

Alot of Star Wars fans dont like The Last Jedi or the new trilogy, in saying that, there not bad movies, they just dont live up to being masterpieces and the old movies. Plus the new films offer plenty of plot holes in the story, similar to TLOU2 and the directon and decisions made.

Neil liking the new Star Wars films says alot. In technical terms, the new movies use state of the art CGI just like TLOU2 with its tech, however both stories took a massive nose dive to the point people lost interest in the direction. 

I am one of those Star Wars fans that has been disapointed with the new films and the treatment of fan favourite characters.. this sounds like a familar issue that TLOU2 had.

I feel this game is held up by the brand power than the actual game itself. Anyway, its all opinions in the end and nothing more than 1st world country debates.

Hey, in the context of claiming that there should be film classes for us peasants who can't understand the themes of TLoU2 because we clearly don't understand the story, yes, that would be considered smug and arrogant.

I didn't word what I meant very well.  I mean that when it comes down to it both sides of the TLoU2 run a lot on opinion so you have to respect that other people might see something you don't and vice versa.  I'm not going to insult you for an opinion I don't agree with

I feel no compulsion to respect bad behaviour such as assuming that people who disagree with you on a video game are stupid and uneducated.

Dood... saying somebody is arrogant and saying somebody is dumb aren't even remotely the same.

One is a derogatory term and the other one isn't.

Hey, in the context of claiming that there should be film classes for us peasants who can't understand the themes of TLoU2 because we clearly don't understand the story, yes, that would be considered smug and arrogant.

I said that I hadn't written my point accurately.  I have shown respect for peoples opinions on here and my demand for respect was that people show the same respect back for my opinion.  I hate the game but I didn't call anyone dumb for that so, while you're trying to portray me as a hypocrite, it won't work.  KratosLives statement was arrogant and it was not an assumption.

I don't care about reiterating my points on the game anymore except to say that if everyone is saying the same stuff about what they disliked then maybe it isn't just a 'copy and paste from youtube' and people genuinely didn't like the points they bring up.  It's a bad idea to assume everyone is acting in bad faith even though I will say that there certainly are people who were.  I don't know what you're qualifying as a 'very bad argument' but that's also subjective.  I understand that for people who really liked the game that it's discouraging to see it getting beaten up again on the internet but the topic literally asked why the game was losing steam.  People who were disappointed by the game were going to mention this here because the game being polarizing was going to affect the games legs.

No need to be insulted, there is no shame in someone feeling they could learn more and better from it. Those who do attend classes and such , online forum discussions, I applaud them, they gain a lot of insight , appreciation , value, and So don't think I feel that people are dumb for how they reacted to a game.  Plenty of people loved the game, and the many that didn't, for those who weren't bigots ( the whole trans thing, lesbian issues, muscular woman)they couldn't really move on past the joel/abby scene, and adjust. 

When you have two people in the same house,  who both absolutely loved the first game, and only one loved the sequel, while the other didn't like it, you then ask yourself, how and why. Both experienced the full game, so the issue becomes, it's not what ( the guy who loved it) got from it, but what the person ( that didn't like it), miss , to not like it.  And when you look to forums and the reasons to people who didn't like it, they share a similar trait.  I went from a hater to the complete opposite. This is the psychological aspect of it, and when you look deeply into it, there is a reasoning to address it. I myself experienced it and have had my own feelings change to a game.

I have seen others change their opinions after some discussions and reasonings. It's amazing how one thing can alter the mind and view towards something. I only care so much, because when people make comments like they know the game, speaking on behalf of everyone as though it's fact, that the game falls short here and there and bring up weak arguements that everyone else then copies, is annoying.