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eva01beserk said:
Hynad said:

There are no reliable source for that claim.

Not just that. It only claimed the chip runs a few degrees hotter. It dint even mention if the cooling was keeping up. Wich was the issue with the xbox rumor. That a lot of heat was coming from the exhaust. 

Woah, can we get MS to delay the X|S launch? The last thing you want is for heat to come out of the exhaust, the spot where you engineered all of the heat to come out of. That's totally not a sign that the cooling system is doing its job.

lol, what a stupid rumor.



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eva01beserk said:
Pemalite said:

You would hope there is allot of heat coming out of the exhaust... It's kinda the entire point?

Well sure. Just not to the extreme the guy made it out to be. He pulled the ssd out and said it burned him. I'm sure he was exagerating. 

A piece of electronics drawing 180-190W (on average according to previews) is going to produce some heat. I saw the video and the guy pull the SSD straight from the console and proceeds to touch the heatsink lol.. its going to be hot man xD

I'd imagine this is a non issue unless you totally block off the top ventilation. Unless there's mass reports of retail units overheating or failing there isn't much to speculate about other than it it produces hot air. Which should be expected from these 300w+ console.



Barozi said:
DonFerrari said:

Stress testing with a BC title, on a cold room and open ventilation seems more like someone trying to favour his point than anything else. You should stress test on a small cabinet, 35C on a next gen title for several hours to have at least a chance of seeing something that can certainly occur in the world. And most certainly MS done it and found the console satisfactory, but this windows central test is a joke.

why do you blame them when they don't have next gen games to test it out? MH World is one of the most demanding current gen games so it's the best choice they could make. Did the people who spread the rumor about heat issues have next gen games to test? Obviously not, so this is very comparable situation.

Also I completely disagree with testing inside a small cabinet instead of an wide open surface. Series X (and PS5) is just too big to properly fit within most of these so they will likely be placed in a spot where they have a ton of open space to cool down. You wouldn't test a PC in such a configuration either.

Stress test is ment to stress something on the worst possible situation, not on a mild one. On the radios we test on the company I work we go from the lowest possible enviromental temperature that equipment would be used (something like -50C) to the highest possible (over 70C) in a spam of 10min them stay there for some hours, do the same 10min drop from 70 to -50 and then stay there for some hours, repeat some cycles so you can both test the resistance of the components (to ensure it won't have premature death due to environmental condition, poor soldering, etc) and also the protection against humidity since such harsh conditions will generate water droplets on the circuit boards. And we do that to 100% of the manufactured equipment.

Anyone that would try to prove our product work or not by doing a 20 to 30 celsius ramp in 20 min wouldn't really be doing an enviromental stress testing. And giving any credit to whatever their conclusion is would be wrong.

And again there is almost 0 possibility that Series S or X would fail due to overheating, they are improvement over the X1X that is already know to have a good working condition regarding temperature and cooling.



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shikamaru317 said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:

Youtube gaming never fails to impress, just the other day i found out crapgamer , the biggest xbox fanboy years ago , now is a plastation fanboy that shits on microsoft at ever opportunity.

Shit is wild 

Yeah, crapgamer switched teams and Xbox fans absolutely can't stand him now, most of his videos get swarmed with dislikes. 

He did? Man, haven't watched one of his videos in a couple of years. I'd love to see that! 😂



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d21lewis said:
shikamaru317 said:

Yeah, crapgamer switched teams and Xbox fans absolutely can't stand him now, most of his videos get swarmed with dislikes. 

He did? Man, haven't watched one of his videos in a couple of years. I'd love to see that! 😂

Would be good if someone posted the video with he saying why he changed side.



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DonFerrari said:
shikamaru317 said:

Windows Central did a heat test as well and got way lower temps than the other 2 testers did, they couldn’t get the temp to go above 35 Celsius while playing Monster Hunter World with open ventilation, though they did test it in a fairly cold room, 18 celsius/64 Fahrenheit room temp. 

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-hot-does-xbox-series-x-get

Stress testing with a BC title, on a cold room and open ventilation seems more like someone trying to favour his point than anything else. You should stress test on a small cabinet, 35C on a next gen title for several hours to have at least a chance of seeing something that can certainly occur in the world. And most certainly MS done it and found the console satisfactory, but this windows central test is a joke.

It's a fair test I'd say. Most people are going to have open ventilation for their Series X simply because they don't have an entertainment center shelf tall enough to fit the 6" tall (in horizontal mode) Series X with adequate space above for ventilation. I know mine is going on a top shelf in vertical mode, just like my Xbox One and PS4 Pro are on my top shelves (Series X is taking the shelf my Xbox One is on, as I'm giving it to my sister), I never put consoles on closed shelves, so I'm happy to know that the system will run cool in the winter months with a cooler room temp on my open top shelf. As for the choice of game, Monster Hunter World was one of the most demanding games they had access to when they ran the test, they did the testing when MS had only opened up a set of back compat titles for preview testers, and out of the BC games, Monster Hunter World is the most demanding, because it has dynamic resolution and unlocked framerate which allows Series X to push itself a fair amount.

The other youtuber stress tested it, tested the console in a cardboard box to simulate a closed shelf, with higher room temps, even covered up the top vent with a game case and still couldn't get the console to overheat. I'm plenty happy with Series X's cooling solution. 

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hinch said:
eva01beserk said:

Well sure. Just not to the extreme the guy made it out to be. He pulled the ssd out and said it burned him. I'm sure he was exagerating. 

A piece of electronics drawing 180-190W (on average according to previews) is going to produce some heat. I saw the video and the guy pull the SSD straight from the console and proceeds to touch the heatsink lol.. its going to be hot man xD

I'd imagine this is a non issue unless you totally block off the top ventilation. Unless there's mass reports of retail units overheating or failing there isn't much to speculate about other than it it produces hot air. Which should be expected from these 300w+ console.

Dont think anybody expects any issue like red ring of death 2.0. Just people taking it to an extreme. The worst I see hapening is maybe a fan runing loud and even that is unlikely.



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Pemalite said:
AsGryffynn said:

Ever explained why he switched teams. If I could fathom returning to Sony, it certainly wouldn't seem likely especially now

Dr Pepper over mine and still kicking. 

That was a solder issue, not a cooling one. 

The solder issue came about BECAUSE of poor cooling. The new solder just wasn't tolerant of those temperatures.

It was a series of smaller design flaws which compounded into a giant stuff up.

Boards warping, shit cooling, hot components... It was never going to end well.

Solder comes before temperature stress tests, not after. Otherwise, the non defective units would have had a different design. OTOH, other components might have had poor heat tolerance and also needed replacing. 

Simply put, the issue wasn't cooling the console so much as making sure it would work at that temperature. Cooling problems imply fan failure or mechanical issues slowing heat exchange. 



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    shikamaru317 said:
    DonFerrari said:

    Stress testing with a BC title, on a cold room and open ventilation seems more like someone trying to favour his point than anything else. You should stress test on a small cabinet, 35C on a next gen title for several hours to have at least a chance of seeing something that can certainly occur in the world. And most certainly MS done it and found the console satisfactory, but this windows central test is a joke.

    It's a fair test I'd say. Most people are going to have open ventilation for their Series X simply because they don't have an entertainment center shelf tall enough to fit the 6" tall (in horizontal mode) Series X with adequate space above for ventilation. I know mine is going on a top shelf in vertical mode, just like my Xbox One and PS4 Pro are on my top shelves (Series X is taking the shelf my Xbox One is on, as I'm giving it to my sister), I never put consoles on closed shelves, so I'm happy to know that the system will run cool in the winter months with a cooler room temp on my open top shelf. As for the choice of game, Monster Hunter World was one of the most demanding games they had access to when they ran the test, they did the testing when MS had only opened up a set of back compat titles for preview testers, and out of the BC games, Monster Hunter World is the most demanding, because it has dynamic resolution and unlocked framerate which allows Series X to push itself a fair amount.

    The other youtuber stress tested it, tested the console in a cardboard box to simulate a closed shelf, with higher room temps, even covered up the top vent with a game case and still couldn't get the console to overheat. I'm plenty happy with Series X's cooling solution. 

    Fair how? You say most people without even an ounce of evidence, not to even forget that you can use Series X on its side.

    The fact that you use it on a specific way doesn't mean most do. And if you don't have a demanding enough game then you better not try to say you really tested it. And the lack of games that could do it with a month to launch isn't problematic? Even more when you put that MS have the second place on most games available at launch?

    And on the second paragraph I said enough times in the thread that there is zero reason to suspect overheating issues with Series.



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