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DarthMetalliCube said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the guy - but I've already seen some utterly sickening, evil replies in this thread. Have some decency. You may not agree with his rhetoric or policies, but he's not a dictator - he's an Authoritarian right wing populist. And the 200,000 deaths in the US (of which many of these deaths reportedly had other causes anyway) are not remotely his fault. And furthermore isn't the mask supposed to stop you from giving covid to OTHERS, not from getting it yourself? Soo what does being vaguely opposed to wearing a face diaper have to do with this?

I swear some of the stuff I read related to politics makes me disgusted to be a human. It's the reason I flipped off that category for viewing on this website. 

not remotely his fault?

Does this include the person who died from drinking pool cleaner after trump talking about an unproven medicine hydrochloriquine

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/man-dies-after-ingesting-chloroquine-attempt-prevent-coronavirus-n1167166

or him downplaying it as being like the flu, which he didnt think people died of. or his other quotes

“And again, when you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."

“It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

The guy downplayed it at the start because he was more concerned about the sharemarket than peoples health.

A lot of people who died if at the start he acted like a real leader instead of how he did.

heres what trump said just after mccain died

"I gave him the kind of funeral that he wanted, which as president I had to approve," he told workers at the factory.

"I don't care about this, I didn't get a thank you. That's OK."

The US president said McCain "didn't get the job done for our great vets and the VA" by refusing to repeal Obamacare and attacked him for "a war in the Middle East", in reference to the senator's support for the Iraq War.

"Not my kind of guy," the president said. "But some people like him and I think that's great."

Yes we should have sympathy for this despicable human being even though he didnt show any for other people



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KingJames said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the guy - but I've already seen some utterly sickening, evil replies in this thread. Have some decency. You may not agree with his rhetoric or policies, but he's not a dictator - he's an Authoritarian right wing populist. And the 200,000 deaths in the US (of which many of these deaths reportedly had other causes anyway) are not remotely his fault. And furthermore isn't the mask supposed to stop you from giving covid to OTHERS, not from getting it yourself? Soo what does being vague opposed to wearing a face diaper have to do with this?

I swear some of the stuff I read related to politics makes me disgusted to be a human. It's the reason I flipped off that category for viewing on this website. 

I found one of the brainwashed.

Says the guy who is basically brainwashed into idolizing a basketball player, so much so that he named his VGC account after him, yikes.

I'm with Darth on this one, the replies in this thread remind me why I removed the Politics sub-forum from my VGC Hot Topics section.



Oy.. Alright folks. I'm checking out of this thread. My faith in humanity was already pretty much at an all-time low this year. Don't need to pile this on top of it. Carry on. Feel free to @ me all you want but I won't be reading. For the sake of my sanity.



 

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shikamaru317 said:

He'll be fine I'm sure, hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin + zinc combination works wonders against covid supposedly, and I'm sure he is taking several other drugs that have been shown to be effective. Supposedly only has mild symptoms so far.

1) I thought hydroxychloroquine was proven to be almost ineffective, while causeing strokes in patients?

2) "only has mild symptoms so far", no one gets serious symptoms day1 of testing positive, esp if your testing reg. enough to catch on as soon as your infected. This virus, takes a month or so to kill you. It starts off mild, and gets slowly worse.



DarthMetalliCube said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the guy - but I've already seen some utterly sickening, evil replies in this thread. Have some decency. You may not agree with his rhetoric or policies, but he's not a dictator - he's an Authoritarian right wing populist. And the 200,000 deaths in the US (of which many of these deaths reportedly had other causes anyway) are not remotely his fault. And furthermore isn't the mask supposed to stop you from giving covid to OTHERS, not from getting it yourself? Soo what does being vaguely opposed to wearing a face diaper have to do with this?

I swear some of the stuff I read related to politics makes me disgusted to be a human. It's the reason I flipped off that category for viewing on this website. 

Different masks work differently. I wear an N-95 which actually filters incoming air. It actually protects me more than it tends to protect other people, as it has a valve to breathe out. So when I went to a hospital yesterday, they required me to wear a more traditional surgical mask, which I did. 

But, let's suppose it's true that wearing masks only protects others around you. Trump and those around him should have all been wearing masks. Then they're all protected against each other. If Hope Hicks had been wearing a mask, perhaps she wouldn't have transmitted it to Trump, if she was the one who did. If all of the people at the rose garden had been wearing masks, then perhaps we wouldn't have 7 confirmed cases so far from people at the event. 

And then Trump after knowing he was exposed to someone with the virus went to a fundraising event in New Jersey. He reportedly did not wear a mask or observe social distancing protocols, when any sensible person should have known that they may have the virus. If any of those people die, I'd call that negligent manslaughter myself.

Trump encouraged people to wear masks which his own top scientists recommend as an effective safeguard against the virus. Just at the debate Trump misrepresented Dr. Fauci's masks with over 60 million people watching. Fauci for the record says "Anybody who has been listening to me over the last several months knows that a conversation does not go by where I do not strongly recommend that people wear masks".

He actively lied about the severity of the pandemic to the American people. He has promoted ineffective treatments. Claimed the virus was a Democratic hoax. He placed the task force in control of Mike Pence, a man with no medical experience. His son in law, another man with no medical experience, was placed in a key role. Instead of listening to the actual experts on the taskforce and in the CDC, he contradicted them. He is the one who politicized the most serious threat to the nation in our generation. He fought against reality, but reality tends to win.

When Trump uses rhetoric that dehumanizes and policies that kill... It's quite understandable that people are not going to be sympathetic. When Trump mocks the disabled, mocked Hillary Clinton for having pneumonia, attacked John McCain for being a prisoner of war (he likes people who weren't captured), attacks Hunter Biden for his struggle with substance abuse, and constantly attacks others in disgusting hateful ways... It's understandable that he doesn't get sympathy. When you treat people like shit, you shouldn't be surprised when they do the same in return.



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This timeline... is not adding up.

On average, symptoms develop 4-5 days from exposure, and start out mild. Trump is hospitalized within 24 hours, which doesn't seem like a decision that would be made lightly.

If Trump was tested every day, then the most likely scenario is that he first contracted it on Wednesday. Tuesday seems the earliest. The tests could have been false negatives, or maybe the viral load wasn't enough for a positive test till Thursday night. Maybe he just wasn't actually testing all that often.

Even if we assume Tuesday was the exposure date, within 3 days he was in the hospital receiving an experimental treatment.

Either he didn't get it when he says he did (which means he was even more careless than we were led to believe), or this case is progressing way faster than usual. Which... would not be a good sign.

I think this is far worse than we're being led to believe.



DarthMetalliCube said:
Oy.. Alright folks. I'm checking out of this thread. My faith in humanity was already pretty much at an all-time low this year. Don't need to pile this on top of it. Carry on. Feel free to @ me all you want but I won't be reading. For the sake of my sanity.

My faith in humanity was lost when this piece of shit was elected through electoral college.  Look what the electoral college have given us in past two decades.   Fucking trump and fucking bush jr



JWeinCom said:
This timeline... is not adding up.

On average, symptoms develop 4-5 days from exposure, and start out mild. Trump is hospitalized within 24 hours, which doesn't seem like a decision that would be made lightly.

If Trump was tested every day, then the most likely scenario is that he first contracted it on Wednesday. Tuesday seems the earliest. The tests could have been false negatives, or maybe the viral load wasn't enough for a positive test till Thursday night. Maybe he just wasn't actually testing all that often.

Even if we assume Tuesday was the exposure date, within 3 days he was in the hospital receiving an experimental treatment.

Either he didn't get it when he says he did (which means he was even more careless than we were led to believe), or this case is progressing way faster than usual. Which... would not be a good sign.

I think this is far worse than we're being led to believe.


A poster here a while ago (some hours) said his symptoms are mild.

However I just went to a read a news paper, and it said inside sources have claimed that he is actually very tired, and has trouble breatheing.
And was supposedly rushed to Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.  Which doesn't sound like mild symptoms.

Also your right, if he was just tested positive, and they caught it early on, its odd to say the least that he would get so sick so fast.
Either they dont know when he got it, or his body is not doing a good job fighting off this virus.

The good news is he's not doing the Bullcrap non working treatments he himself promoted to others (hydroxychloroquine).
Hes getting Remdesivir, and doesnt need full time oxygen or such yet.




This place never disappoint in its disgustingness, how it has fallen. Hope all of you that show no sympathy burn in hell

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sethnintendo said:
DarthMetalliCube said:
Oy.. Alright folks. I'm checking out of this thread. My faith in humanity was already pretty much at an all-time low this year. Don't need to pile this on top of it. Carry on. Feel free to @ me all you want but I won't be reading. For the sake of my sanity.

My faith in humanity was lost when this piece of shit was elected through electoral college.  Look what the electoral college have given us in past two decades.   Fucking trump and fucking bush jr

Thats not lost faith in humanity, but instead in the foundations of the US election system.
Its a stupid system to use in todays world, you guys should update it.
Back in the 1700-1800's it made sense because the US is such a big country.
Today? you can be on the otherside of the world, and send (e)mails and such near instantly to one another.

US should have a more fair election system, were all that matters is the popular vote (most votes = winner).