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JWeinCom said:
EricHiggin said:

Can't really further explain this or the next point if you don't see any logic behind it.

Some Trump mail in voters could change their minds, especially if Trump returns weak and in poor health. This is certainly possible.

If Trump wasn't that ill, and didn't follow protocol, the media would have a field day with it, making Trump look bad. I'd think they can also get more access to him or info on him at the WH vs the hospital. If Trump isn't that ill, and can return reasonably soon, and can talk down the impact of it, he can in a way justify lesser restrictions. Basically the reasoning for him being forced into silence would be based on a failure due to the overreach of implemented restrictions. If he's a fat, unhealthy, old, stressed out, angry person, as per the media, how could he get over it so easily, would be along the lines of the claim made. Trump would no doubt be questioned as to him being wrong in the past and agreeing with the present restrictions or more, and he's not going to agree with that. If you think all science is fact and doesn't or can't change based on new findings or experiences, then this wouldn't sway you. If you think science does change, at least until it's undeniably proven by the scientific method, then you may be swayed.

I've seen people, especially minorities, who say Trump should shut up about racism because he's white and can't have a clue because of that. If Trump goes through covid, based on that logic, while it doesn't make him an expert, it means what he has to say now has merit, especially compared to those who haven't gone through it, like Biden for example. Though if Trump comes back healthy and strong, he won't really be able to use victimhood and feelings to get anywhere. He would be able to use his experience to his advantage however.

Yeah... definitely not seeing the logic. I mean, sure those are arguments he could try and make, but I don't think it'll be successful.

Only point I'll address is the one on science. Science is definitely not all fact, and does definitely change. But one data point does not change it. Trump surviving or dying makes no real impact as he's just one of 7,000,000 and has far better access to medical treatment than virtually any other person. The more important point is his utter lack of care and his inability to even protect himself with the tremendous resources at his disposal.

It really doesn't change the science, I agree, but people typically aren't the most science oriented. There's many ways to sway people, especially when it comes to power and influence. This is especially clear from what's thought by the left, which seems weird, since they're supposed to be the one's who believe more strongly in science.

If Trump recovers easily, he's likely to try and use that as justification for not being more cautious and how he handled things in the past. For all we know it was someone else who broke protocol and gave it to him. If it puts him down hard, he's going to have a hard time explaining it all away.



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Merry Christmas asshole.



He doesn't deserve any sympathy. He got what he asked for.

A lot of people lost everything, because of him. A lot of people died, because of him. He thought the virus is a joke made by democrats. He mismanaged the whole pandemic and STILL does. He makes fun of people wearing a mask.

Let's see what happens next.



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Oh well karma is a bitch lol. That's what happens when u say its not real and not wear mask all the time



I'm not the biggest fan of the guy - but I've already seen some utterly sickening, evil replies in this thread. Have some decency. You may not agree with his rhetoric or policies, but he's not a dictator - he's an Authoritarian right wing populist. And the 200,000 deaths in the US (of which many of these deaths reportedly had other causes anyway) are not remotely his fault. And furthermore isn't the mask supposed to stop you from giving covid to OTHERS, not from getting it yourself? Soo what does being vaguely opposed to wearing a face diaper have to do with this?

I swear some of the stuff I read related to politics makes me disgusted to be a human. It's the reason I flipped off that category for viewing on this website. 



 

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shikamaru317 said:

He'll be fine I'm sure, hydroxychloroquine + azithromycin combination works wonders against covid supposedly, and I'm sure he is taking several other drugs that have been shown to be effective. Supposedly only has mild symptoms so far.

How many studies do you need to know hydroxychloroquine doesn't work and he isn't taking it?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine/hydroxychloroquine-ineffective-against-mild-covid-19-u-s-study-shows-idUSKCN24H2YC



Wish him a speedy recovery and his wife.



DarthMetalliCube said:
I'm not the biggest fan of the guy - but I've already seen some utterly sickening, evil replies in this thread. Have some decency. You may not agree with his rhetoric or policies, but he's not a dictator - he's an Authoritarian right wing populist. And the 200,000 deaths in the US (of which many of these deaths reportedly had other causes anyway) are not remotely his fault. I swear some of the stuff I read makes me disgusted to be a human.

So we are supposed to show respect to a person that deserves no respect.



DarthMetalliCube said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the guy - but I've already seen some utterly sickening, evil replies in this thread. Have some decency. You may not agree with his rhetoric or policies, but he's not a dictator - he's an Authoritarian right wing populist. And the 200,000 deaths in the US (of which many of these deaths reportedly had other causes anyway) are not remotely his fault. And furthermore isn't the mask supposed to stop you from giving covid to OTHERS, not from getting it yourself? Soo what does being vague opposed to wearing a face diaper have to do with this?

I swear some of the stuff I read related to politics makes me disgusted to be a human. It's the reason I flipped off that category for viewing on this website. 

I found one of the brainwashed.



KingJames said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

I'm not the biggest fan of the guy - but I've already seen some utterly sickening, evil replies in this thread. Have some decency. You may not agree with his rhetoric or policies, but he's not a dictator - he's an Authoritarian right wing populist. And the 200,000 deaths in the US (of which many of these deaths reportedly had other causes anyway) are not remotely his fault. And furthermore isn't the mask supposed to stop you from giving covid to OTHERS, not from getting it yourself? Soo what does being vague opposed to wearing a face diaper have to do with this?

I swear some of the stuff I read related to politics makes me disgusted to be a human. It's the reason I flipped off that category for viewing on this website. 

I found one of the brainwashed.

Take a good hard look in the mirror



 

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