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Forums - Microsoft - Xbox Series S design leaked, Confirmed at $300 this Holiday (Series X = $500)

Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 08 September 2020
Cerebralbore101 said:

So here's a Series S comparable PC build. It's kind of expensive now, but prices should drop a ton on Black Friday/Cyber Monday. Also, this build is using a 5700XT, when AMD should have their new cards out in a few months. The new cards should have a much better price to performance ratio, lowering the cost further. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8DmZk6

I am not sure how you could say it's comparable when you have a 5700 XT...



                  

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Cerebralbore101 on 08 September 2020
Captain_Yuri said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

So here's a Series S comparable PC build. It's kind of expensive now, but prices should drop a ton on Black Friday/Cyber Monday. Also, this build is using a 5700XT, when AMD should have their new cards out in a few months. The new cards should have a much better price to performance ratio, lowering the cost further. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8DmZk6

I am not sure how you could say it's comparable when you have a 5700 XT...

A simple mistake. Fixed it now. I misread the Digital Foundry report as them downclocking a 5700XT, instead of a 5500XT. It'll still need some tweaking whenever AMD's new cards come  out, but I think people should be able to get a Series S comparable PC for around $500.

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smroadkill15 on 08 September 2020
eva01beserk said:
How Are people saying $300 is a good price? Thats crazy high for what it offers. People are expecting a $400 ps5 digital. If thats the case this console is ridiculous overpriced. The only way I see this as a good price is if the ps5 digital is $500 and the seiries x and regular ps5 are $600, wich I very much doubt that would be the case.

So you know the price it cost to manufacture the Series S? I'm sure many of us would love to know.



Jumpinbeans on 08 September 2020

in a dream world sony comes out and says the no disk edition is $299 :)
Sadly though i reckon the no disk edition PS5 is either $350 or $399....leaning towards the $350



hinch on 08 September 2020
Cerebralbore101 said:
Fei-Hung said:
Can you imagine all the kids that want an xbox x series for Xmas and parents end up getting them a series S lol

At that price, a lot of people will impulse buy. I'm not interested at all in the next gen xbox but at £250 I was thinking why not. Then I stood back and thought wait, half a TB isn't a lot, and what will the next gen games look like on this thing. Its a third of the performance of a series X, and under 60% under the ps5. Will they run like shit, look like shit, what features will we miss out on. Am I better off holding back until there is a price drop?

Might be worth as a streaming media hub that happens to play games maybe.

One thing is for sure though, Sony will be thinking wtf unless they can bring the digital down to £300-350 and offer it with a 512gb SDD too. If they can, they will be happy.

I didn't even consider Sony being able to drop the size of the SSD. If they dropped their Digital SSD down to 412 GB (Half the size of their regular SSD), they'd be able to save an additional $50 on manufacturing costs. Not having a disk drive should lower costs and allow them to subsidize thanks to a bigger return on digital sales. So Disk PS5 for $500, and Diskless for $375 to $350, with half the SSD space.

Yeah this build wont last you long.

RDNA 1 vs 2. No ray-tracing, VRS, VRR. Slow AF SSD. Gunk tier PSU. You either go mid or high end on PC. Never low end on a PC if used for gaming or other demanding applications. A $300 Series S is miles better in technology and value.



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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 08 September 2020

Personally I'd wait a few months until the next gen budget GPUs come out for PC before comparing it to the Series S.



                  

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Cerebralbore101 on 08 September 2020
hinch said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

I didn't even consider Sony being able to drop the size of the SSD. If they dropped their Digital SSD down to 412 GB (Half the size of their regular SSD), they'd be able to save an additional $50 on manufacturing costs. Not having a disk drive should lower costs and allow them to subsidize thanks to a bigger return on digital sales. So Disk PS5 for $500, and Diskless for $375 to $350, with half the SSD space.

Yeah this build wont last you long.

RDNA 1 vs 2. No ray-tracing, VRS, VRR. Slow AF SSD. Gunk tier PSU. You either go mid or high end on PC. Never low end. A $300 Series S is miles better in technology and value.

I think you quoted the wrong post. But anyway...

Yes, it should have the newer GPU in that build. Like I said before we'll have to wait until AMD has their RDNA2 cards out.

RDNA 2 cards should have ray tracing.

It's an M.2 SSD. That's not slow.

It's a decent PSU, just not modular.

I agree absolutely that you should go mid or high end on a PC. But for somebody that wants to get a Series S, I think its worth spending an extra $200 just to have access to a much bigger library. Xbox has a D tier library compared to the other systems, while PC has A tier.

And just to say it again, I would never build this. Go at least upper mid tier with PC or don't bother IMO!



hinch on 08 September 2020

Oops yeah misquoted. I would never recommend anything under B tier for PSU. Unless you don't value your PC and want to start a fire :P

And 1500MB/s read and QLC is hot garbage. Trying to build a PC to match consoles is dumb lol



drkohler on 08 September 2020
Cerebralbore101 said:

I didn't even consider Sony being able to drop the size of the SSD. If they dropped their Digital SSD down to 412 GB (Half the size of their regular SSD), they'd be able to save an additional $50 on manufacturing costs.

Sigh... once again, do the following. Go to the semiconductor spot market and:

1. Check the price of 12 64GB nvrams

2. Check the price of 12 32GB nvrams

3. subtract 2 from 1

4. take roughly 60% of 3, as Sony doesn'tbuy at the spot market, obviously

This would be the savings if Sony cut the ssd size in half. Hint: it is less than $5

What would you do with a 384GB ssd (not even considering that the os partition takes away a good chunk of that)?



Alex_The_Hedgehog on 08 September 2020
trunkswd said:

Xbox Series S launches November 10 for $299.

It's better than I thought.