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Forums - Sales Discussion - August NPD 2020: Switch 504k, PS4 197k, XBO 45k

DonFerrari on 16 September 2020

Cool to see people with 10% the ability to analyze data and verify links trying to rebut the points of Shadow.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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curl-6 on 16 September 2020

I still see the same two fundamental mistakes in Shadow's analysis; (a) to assume that the present and future can only ever consist of repetitions of past events and patterns, and (b) to expect that Switch will behave like past Nintendo consoles despite being totally different from them.

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src on 17 September 2020

The biggest reason PS4 and SW are getting these boosts is not their software. Its COVID. The pandemic has already recorded giving gaming consoles and software sales a 100%+ boost. SW was incredibly lucky to have this come in a year with not much for the holiday and the PS4 lucky to have it on its end year.

Its also astonishing to see PS4 outsell the XB1 by 4:1 in the US. Imagine how bad it is elsewhere.



Jranation on 17 September 2020
src said:
The biggest reason PS4 and SW are getting these boosts is not their software. Its COVID. The pandemic has already recorded giving gaming consoles and software sales a 100%+ boost. SW was incredibly lucky to have this come in a year with not much for the holiday and the PS4 lucky to have it on its end year.

Its also astonishing to see PS4 outsell the XB1 by 4:1 in the US. Imagine how bad it is elsewhere.

Im sure its not as bad as the PS4 and the Switch in Japan. 



Pocky Lover Boy! 

src on 17 September 2020
Jranation said:
src said:
The biggest reason PS4 and SW are getting these boosts is not their software. Its COVID. The pandemic has already recorded giving gaming consoles and software sales a 100%+ boost. SW was incredibly lucky to have this come in a year with not much for the holiday and the PS4 lucky to have it on its end year.

Its also astonishing to see PS4 outsell the XB1 by 4:1 in the US. Imagine how bad it is elsewhere.

Im sure its not as bad as the PS4 and the Switch in Japan. 

PS4 has been stock constrained in Japan for weeks.

Or are you saying XB1 is stock constrained in the US? Otherwise, cute try at being clever.



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Agente42 on 17 September 2020
scottslater said:
Meanwhile from the last Nintendo reporting...

The number of consumers who started playing on Nintendo Switch because of this
game continued to increase during the first quarter, from April to June 2020. Of all
systems in the Nintendo Switch family that were played for the first time during
this period, over half were used to play Animal Crossing: New Horizons on the first
day.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2020/200806_2e.pdf

Animal Crossing drives sales, Covid help

Other consoles have bost, nothing Switch similar and boost go down but Switch remains? Why?

Software drive sales. 



Kai_Mao on 17 September 2020
src said:
Jranation said:

Im sure its not as bad as the PS4 and the Switch in Japan. 

PS4 has been stock constrained in Japan for weeks.

Or are you saying XB1 is stock constrained in the US? Otherwise, cute try at being clever.

Might as well say XB1 has been supply constrained ever since it released in Japan :P

Even if Sony was interested in ramping up supply for PS4 in Japan, I'm not sure if it would make much of a difference. It would still struggle to even be a challenge to Switch or even make it to 10 million sold LT. I guess at this point, Sony is more focused on getting PS5 off the ground.



curl-6 on 17 September 2020
scottslater said:
Meanwhile from the last Nintendo reporting...

The number of consumers who started playing on Nintendo Switch because of this
game continued to increase during the first quarter, from April to June 2020. Of all
systems in the Nintendo Switch family that were played for the first time during
this period, over half were used to play Animal Crossing: New Horizons on the first
day.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2020/200806_2e.pdf

Pretty much, anyone dismissing the colossal system selling power of Animal Crossing is in denial.

By massively increasing the system's appeal to the female demographic, it has permanently enlarged the audience Switch sells to.



Agente42 on 17 September 2020
curl-6 said:
scottslater said:
Meanwhile from the last Nintendo reporting...

The number of consumers who started playing on Nintendo Switch because of this
game continued to increase during the first quarter, from April to June 2020. Of all
systems in the Nintendo Switch family that were played for the first time during
this period, over half were used to play Animal Crossing: New Horizons on the first
day.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2020/200806_2e.pdf

Pretty much, anyone dismissing the colossal system selling power of Animal Crossing is in denial.

By massively increasing the system's appeal to the female demographic, it has permanently enlarged the audience Switch sells to.

yeah, another tier level. 



scottslater on 18 September 2020
curl-6 said:
scottslater said:
Meanwhile from the last Nintendo reporting...

The number of consumers who started playing on Nintendo Switch because of this
game continued to increase during the first quarter, from April to June 2020. Of all
systems in the Nintendo Switch family that were played for the first time during
this period, over half were used to play Animal Crossing: New Horizons on the first
day.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2020/200806_2e.pdf

Pretty much, anyone dismissing the colossal system selling power of Animal Crossing is in denial.

By massively increasing the system's appeal to the female demographic, it has permanently enlarged the audience Switch sells to.

Agree, it was clear that the Switch was already positioned to have a monster year with Animal Crossing coming this year and Mario's 35th anniversary to build upon the monster year they had in 2019 (it sold 21m units last FY...). Everyone knew that they would have another 20-25m units sold this FY and all it takes is a special game to make it have a special year (and Animal Crossing was that game). Did Covid-19 contribute to it having more success than it should have? We will never know. But there is also the very high possibility that ACNH would have been the major success it was even without lock downs.



Nintendo with the Switch: