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I think Nintendo made home console gaming standard, but Playstation was the next evolution that perfected the art. Had the N64 been CD rom and not pissed off 3rd parties with high fees, Square develops games for Nintendo and the history of gaming would have looked quite a bit different. Losing Square was a big loss especially in Japan, and while I stuck with Nintendo that generation and enjoyed every minute of it, you can bet I missed out on Final Fantasy, and Chrono Cross and didn't get to play them until much later on a high definition tv where the pixels looked awful. Had I been older at the time, I probably would have owned both systems.



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PAOerfulone said:

No, this thing did.

No, it wasn't.  It only revitalized the console market.  I knew more adults who enjoyed Atari than Nintendo. 



No, but it did become the next big competitor to the company that made home consoles a standard for gaming, after SEGA dropped out.



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Ka-pi96 said:

Have we gone back to the 90s or something?

I mean, people still buy HiFis (had to google that to even find out what it was )? Don't they have iphones? WTF? And I expect Sony make more money from gaming than from TVs too.

LOL - yes maybe not so much cameras and music equipment anymore.  I don't mean to say that Playstation isn't an important part of Sony, but it's not even a quarter of what they do.  I imagine that they make most of their money from their film and music side.

Actually it is almost exactly a quarter of what they do.

Per FY2019, Games and Network Services Revenue was 1,977.6 Bin Yen (24%), while Sony's Total Revenue was 8,259.9 Bin Yen. As for Operating Profits, Game and Network Services was 238.4 Bin Yen (28%), while Sony's Total Operating Profit was 845.5 Bin Yen.

For reference, Music was 849.9 Bin Yen (10%) Revenue/ 142.3 Bin Yen (17%) Profit, and Film (Pictures) was 1,011.9 Bin Yen (12%) Revenue/ 68.2 Bin Yen (8%) Profits.

So Film and Music combine match PlayStation at 24% Revenue, however, they fall just short of PlayStation in Profits at 25% vs 28%.



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At least in North America and Japan, the NES already did that. An EA exec recalled reviewing a list of top selling software back in the 1980s. They had to go through two pages of NES titles to find the best-selling PC title. 



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Burning Typhoon said:
KBG29 said:
Sony took console gaming from 60 Million homes, to 160 Million homes. PlayStation grew console gaming to where it is today with PS1 and PS2.

Unfortunately, they have stagnated with PS3 and PS4. However, Microsoft has picked up the slack, with 360 & XBO to keep console gaming relatively stable over the last 15 years.

Hopefully, with PS5 & XBS we will see a return to growth in the console space. The speed of the SSD and I/O in both console should keep them well ahead of off the shelf PCs in practical uses for a few years to come.

If they can continue to push the gaming medium deeper and wider, while also making things like Communication, Social Media, Quality of Life, Shopping, Banking, etc. stupidly accessible, then they might finally be able to punch consoles past that 200M wall, and well beyond.

Global sales of the PS3 and system capabilities out-matched the Xbox 360.  The only thing people didn't like about the PS3 when it was first announced was the price.  I'd say if anything, they stagnated with the PS4, as it literally has fewer on-board features than the PS3.  The sale of the PS4, have still outmatched the Xbox One.

As far as Xbox One is concerned, the only game it has that you can't get on PC is Halo 5.  Even Xbox Live is free to access on PC.  That's stagnating.

You don't stumble for 2 generations in a row, and still have massive support behind the PS5.

I don't disagree. The PS3 was a much better device, with a better ecosystem, and a better games library than PS4. Sony just failed to gain any traction with it. PS4 is a far worse device, with a definitively worse ecosystem, that Sony stumbled into success with due to blunders from Microsoft and Nintendo. 

Luckily, the PS5 is looking more like a PS3 successor than a PS4 successor, and that could mean big things. This time, it looks like they will have the right price, the right features, and a lineup of 1st Party Exclusives.

One thing that hamstrung PS3 was that many of the big titles that had made PS1 & PS2 so successful where 3rd party, and they were made multiplatform when PS3 failed to launch on time, and meet sales expectations. That is not the case with the Titles that pulled PS3 through its later years, and have become major successes on PS4. If gamers want to play Uncharted, Horizon, God of War, The Last of Us, and Spider-Man, PS5 will be the only place to play. Sony has built an unrivaled library of exclusives, and now it looks like they are going to go back into the game of innovation and expansion, while maintaining and growing their already strong games library. 



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Yes but now the Nintendo Switch will outsell the PlayStation 4



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This thread was not created to have a discussion. It was made to praise what is in OPs signature and argue with anyone who doesn't agree. The answer is no and lol at thinking it was the first CD-based system. You really need an education in game consoles. Had Saturn done everything right PS1 would not even exist. Sony would have been in partnership with SEGA for the PS1 which was in talks. Or let's say Saturn was easy to develop for and Sony still made PS1  and N64 were easy to develop for and CD-Rom. Marketing was good for both SEGA and Nintendo. Well then FFVII comes to N64. PS1 becomes another 3D0/CDi/Amiga 32 or at best the new NEC PCE. PS1 mainly benefited from Saturn's chipset being difficult and a botched US launch. Also, N64 using carts. FFVII was only moved to PS1 because carts were too limited in space.  NES set the standard. Everything after was built on the formula NES created. Esp in licensing games. PS1 does not exist unless they worked with SEGA and Nintendo. Sony published games on Sega CD. They worked with Nintendo on the sound chip for SNES. Then the CD add on. PS1 does not exist without working with SEGA and Nintendo first and learning the console business.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

While I'm not surprised about who made this thread, I'm kind of worried that 4 people agreed with that OP.



Leynos said:

This thread was not created to have a discussion. It was made to praise what is in OPs signature and argue with anyone who doesn't agree. The answer is no and lol at thinking it was the first CD-based system. You really need an education in game consoles. Had Saturn done everything right PS1 would not even exist. Sony would have been in partnership with SEGA for the PS1 which was in talks. Or let's say Saturn was easy to develop for and Sony still made PS1  and N64 were easy to develop for and CD-Rom. Marketing was good for both SEGA and Nintendo. Well then FFVII comes to N64. PS1 becomes another 3D0/CDi/Amiga 32 or at best the new NEC PCE. PS1 mainly benefited from Saturn's chipset being difficult and a botched US launch. Also, N64 using carts. FFVII was only moved to PS1 because carts were too limited in space.  NES set the standard. Everything after was built on the formula NES created. Esp in licensing games. PS1 does not exist unless they worked with SEGA and Nintendo. Sony published games on Sega CD. They worked with Nintendo on the sound chip for SNES. Then the CD add on. PS1 does not exist without working with SEGA and Nintendo first and learning the console business.

The thing is none of those brands it all together and released a product with enough innovation at the time to spark great interest. This attracted third parties to their console and remains a staple to their success. PS1 to PS4.

I was a massive fan of Sega and was of Atari but I never bought a Mega CD or Jaguar. Its like when Apple released the Iphone. There was nothing quite like Playstaion in the marketplace. Games like Final Fantasy VII or any other games would have not been possible at least with full FMV's on any other consoles. Then you have the PS1 pad and DualShock which are the foundation/s of modern game pad.

You could argue that a lot of franchises never would have made it if it wasn't for PS release. They reached a larger audience and console gaming continues to grow. Should they not have existed who knows what would have happened. We might not have had Xbox and console gaming could have remained more niche like in the 80's and 90's. Who knows. We do know that they are one of the market leaders since 1997.