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JapaneseGamesLover said:
FFXV was sold for 20 EU 2 years after release. That sums it up, loads of unsold copies in retailers. Overshipped game.

Sums what up? That those unsold overshipped copies of FFXV still sold more than FFXIII?

OT:  Since PS1, it seems like every big FF games has about 2-3 year gap while FFXV to FFVIIr has a 4 year gap.  So dont expect a new big FF game until at least 2022.  It wont mean FF16 will be next but more likely another FFVII remake part 2. 

I dont think Square is scared to release FF16 but more likely they just want to take their time or have other projects in mind like Kingdom Hearts or Project Aitha etc.   

As well, Square hasn't been "traditional" in a sense of releasing games numerically one after another as their big FF game since after FFX.  We can no longer assume that Square should be working on FF16 (ie. Square didnt release a FFXV last gen but rather focused on FFXIII-2 and FFXIII Lightning returns)



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If they are afraid to release a new game of their most successful, famous and influential franchise they'd better given up gaming industry altogether



Have you seen FF15? They clearly have no sense of shame.



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JapaneseGamesLover said:

To many people the franchise has been kinda tarnished with latest entries. Each Flagship gen FF sells less than the previous. FF 15 sold less than 13 and FF 13 sold less than X. Next to that there is no official word on FF16 and SE is pushing a remake/remasters agenda of previous beloved titles, such as VII,VIII,X and XII the past 3 years.  Do you think they are really scared of the reception of FF16 that they dont consider making one in the future ? Some rumours are going around for action rpg title in the making, but still no one can tell it is attached to FF, it could be Project Athia, as seen by latest developments.

Are you sure your stats are correct? A simple google says 15 sold 8.9million and 13 sold 7million. 

If anything, Monster Hunter World has taught Square that a AAA open world RPG can sell boatloads. MHW sold 15mil+. 

Square can easily tailor to 12's forumla and make a more open world Final Fantasy. 

FF7 Remake is also decent in sales, so if anything, I dont think they are "scared". More like 1) they just released KH3 last year 2) Released FF7 Remake 4 months ago 3) Working on FF7 Remake Part 2 4) Already 1-3 years into planning/development on 16.

Not to mention, isn't it supposed to be every even numbered FF is mmorpg? FF14's getting pretty old and its been profitable. Not surprised if they refresh it with a new game. 



AsGryffynn said:
JapaneseGamesLover said:

To many people the franchise has been kinda tarnished with latest entries. Each Flagship gen FF sells less than the previous. FF 15 sold less than 13 and FF 13 sold less than X. Next to that there is no official word on FF16 and SE is pushing a remake/remasters agenda of previous beloved titles, such as VII,VIII,X and XII the past 3 years.  Do you think they are really scared of the reception of FF16 that they dont consider making one in the future ? Some rumours are going around for action rpg title in the making, but still no one can tell it is attached to FF, it could be Project Athia, as seen by latest developments.


Seems you're under the wrong impression. FFXIII sold around 8 million. FFXV hit 9 million as of 2016. The Lightning Saga hit 11 million. Also, FFXV is missing the XBO numbers, which were probably not that low given Comrades was matchmaking up until after 2017. The console probably sold a million or so... 

Also, hard to develop a new FF when you're already working on something like VII and the new IP. 

Also FFXIV is currently the most successfull MMO on the market, the game basicaly prints money.



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The entire OP is just wrong information.
FF15 was the highest selling FF since FFX
FF13 as a series sold 11 mill but FF15 sold more than each installment individually and a few mill away from outselling entirely.
FF7R unsurprisingly will retake that crown.
FF14 has made the most money of any FF.

Project Anthia is a new.

This weak phase of Final Fantasy is all in your head. It never happened.



John2290 said:
No, as long as they have FF14 money they will always take the risks without fear. Now what they are scared of is loosing FF14 or releasing a new MMO and THAT failing.

Sometimes I think they are more concerned about FF14 follow up than FF16.

Actually FF16 could even be the follow up to 14



EnricoPallazzo said:
John2290 said:
No, as long as they have FF14 money they will always take the risks without fear. Now what they are scared of is loosing FF14 or releasing a new MMO and THAT failing.

Sometimes I think they are more concerned about FF14 follow up than FF16.

Actually FF16 could even be the follow up to 14

Honestly, with the ammount of money, FF14 makes we should be thankful they actually make mainlines anymore and nah, ShadowBringers was far too popular to migrate people to a new MMO and if even the estimation of one million paid subscriptions is half correct FF14 is not going anywhere. Imagine being able to get people to buy a game, then buy a similarly priced expansion every two years all while paid at least 10 euro a month or even double that for the most dedicated and on TOP of that you sell MTX by the bucket load. World of Warcraft ain't gone nowhere after 16 years and I believe FF14 is 7 years younger. Ff11 wasn't even a fraction of these levels of popularity or money making so updating made sense.



 

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All FF's have been successful minus the spin offs, I think they're just more interested in milking what they have then producing new content but it seems they had an internal change with that when they cancelled FFXV DLC.

I mean it could have been like last gen when we got XIII, XIII-2, XIII-3.... But we at least got FFVII part 1 & FFXV. I'm hoping next gen they do the unthinkable and release FFXVI & XVII in the same generation.



John2290 said:
EnricoPallazzo said:

Sometimes I think they are more concerned about FF14 follow up than FF16.

Actually FF16 could even be the follow up to 14

Honestly, with the ammount of money, FF14 makes we should be thankful they actually make mainlines anymore and nah, ShadowBringers was far too popular to migrate people to a new MMO and if even the estimation of one million paid subscriptions is half correct FF14 is not going anywhere. Imagine being able to get people to buy a game, then buy a similarly priced expansion every two years all while paid at least 10 euro a month or even double that for the most dedicated and on TOP of that you sell MTX by the bucket load. World of Warcraft ain't gone nowhere after 16 years and I believe FF14 is 7 years younger. Ff11 wasn't even a fraction of these levels of popularity or money making so updating made sense.

Wow, thats huge, I expected to game to be already in decline and people would be demanding a new online FF but you might be right, at this pace it will take a long time to have a new FF online.