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From my understanding. Square is so scared of FF16 becoming another 10+M seller. They are giving us a sequel to Chrono Trigger. A Monolith Soft remake of Xenogears. Sequel and remake to Vagrant Story and a new Final Fantasy tactics game. Just so those can sell only to a small cult audience and be happy with the results of at best 1M sellers.

If this was la la land. FF16 will come out on PS5 and XSX and sell 15 plus million. It will be a single-player focused game.



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EnricoPallazzo said:
John2290 said:

Honestly, with the ammount of money, FF14 makes we should be thankful they actually make mainlines anymore and nah, ShadowBringers was far too popular to migrate people to a new MMO and if even the estimation of one million paid subscriptions is half correct FF14 is not going anywhere. Imagine being able to get people to buy a game, then buy a similarly priced expansion every two years all while paid at least 10 euro a month or even double that for the most dedicated and on TOP of that you sell MTX by the bucket load. World of Warcraft ain't gone nowhere after 16 years and I believe FF14 is 7 years younger. Ff11 wasn't even a fraction of these levels of popularity or money making so updating made sense.

Wow, thats huge, I expected to game to be already in decline and people would be demanding a new online FF but you might be right, at this pace it will take a long time to have a new FF online.

They made three quarters of a billion in three months after Shadowbringers from FF14 alone so, yup, pretty huge and almost double the number of subs since the last expansion in 2017 which I remember recalling at 600k and this doesn't count time cards or sub time paid up front which I'd inagine would make up a significant chunk of the base. It has a long way to go to get to WoWs numbers or WoWs 12 million peak but growth is growth and it's going to effect everything SE does, even outside of FF, for the next generation at least. 



 

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Drakrami said:
JapaneseGamesLover said:

To many people the franchise has been kinda tarnished with latest entries. Each Flagship gen FF sells less than the previous. FF 15 sold less than 13 and FF 13 sold less than X. Next to that there is no official word on FF16 and SE is pushing a remake/remasters agenda of previous beloved titles, such as VII,VIII,X and XII the past 3 years.  Do you think they are really scared of the reception of FF16 that they dont consider making one in the future ? Some rumours are going around for action rpg title in the making, but still no one can tell it is attached to FF, it could be Project Athia, as seen by latest developments.

Are you sure your stats are correct? A simple google says 15 sold 8.9million and 13 sold 7million. 

If anything, Monster Hunter World has taught Square that a AAA open world RPG can sell boatloads. MHW sold 15mil+. 

Square can easily tailor to 12's forumla and make a more open world Final Fantasy. 

FF7 Remake is also decent in sales, so if anything, I dont think they are "scared". More like 1) they just released KH3 last year 2) Released FF7 Remake 4 months ago 3) Working on FF7 Remake Part 2 4) Already 1-3 years into planning/development on 16.

Not to mention, isn't it supposed to be every even numbered FF is mmorpg? FF14's getting pretty old and its been profitable. Not surprised if they refresh it with a new game. 

No that is not supposed to be,FF14 might be getting old but they have plenty of servers and all of them are brimming with activity and the team behind it is busy with the next expansion for the mmo.

It has also already been remade and is making a good amount of profit,as long as they catch enough profit from that community or there isnt a steep downline in profit it would be risky to introduce the next FF mmo.



Just to add on to above; It was heavily implied that 14 will be receiving a major graphic overhaul during last livestream about it.



I don't think they are scared to release it. Just taking their time to make it as good as possible. If I were to bet, I would bet on FF16 still being years before release. Probably they are making it next gen only and in order to maximize sales, they would need to release it when next gen install base will be significant. Actually, it's a question of "when" FF16 is coming, not "if". It's still a huge franchise which prints money with every entry. So, it's definitely coming.



 

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Has any recent square Enix game flopped recently? All the games they release seem to be big hits, even nier which at launch was supposed to be a hidden gem.
Somehow some people seem to be under the impression that ffxv flopped when se cleared stated shortly after launch that they broke even, they also released tons of dlc which probably didn’t cost too much make, also most games get discounts shortly after launch why would that affect se but not other companies?



Lol flopped, dude ffremake solda like crazy in the Middle of a global pandemic with mail deliveries fucked up across the globe. Bruh...



 

Leynos said:

From my understanding. Square is so scared of FF16 becoming another 10+M seller. They are giving us a sequel to Chrono Trigger. A Monolith Soft remake of Xenogears. Sequel and remake to Vagrant Story and a new Final Fantasy tactics game. Just so those can sell only to a small cult audience and be happy with the results of at best 1M sellers.

If this was la la land. FF16 will come out on PS5 and XSX and sell 15 plus million. It will be a single-player focused game.

Woah now!  While your point is valid, Chrono Trigger was the best game ever made in my opinion, and I will always want a new one as unlikely as it is.  Final Fantasy has gone downhill since IX, with X being good and everything after that being meh to awful.  Having played XV for several hours before stopping due to a complete lack of caring for the characters, I'm not really looking forward to another one this point.  XVI will come and it will sell great, but I can see the series continuing a downward trend.



Except you are wrong, FF XV outsold FF XIV



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rapsuperstar31 said:
Leynos said:

From my understanding. Square is so scared of FF16 becoming another 10+M seller. They are giving us a sequel to Chrono Trigger. A Monolith Soft remake of Xenogears. Sequel and remake to Vagrant Story and a new Final Fantasy tactics game. Just so those can sell only to a small cult audience and be happy with the results of at best 1M sellers.

If this was la la land. FF16 will come out on PS5 and XSX and sell 15 plus million. It will be a single-player focused game.

Woah now!  While your point is valid, Chrono Trigger was the best game ever made in my opinion, and I will always want a new one as unlikely as it is.  Final Fantasy has gone downhill since IX, with X being good and everything after that being meh to awful.  Having played XV for several hours before stopping due to a complete lack of caring for the characters, I'm not really looking forward to another one this point.  XVI will come and it will sell great, but I can see the series continuing a downward trend.

As great as they were. They were not big sellers was the point. I'd prefer if those games I mentioned got made but it's not going to happen since they just didn't sell that great esp comparison to recent FF games.



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