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Lifetime sales of Halo Infinite?

0-3 million 3 7.69%
 
3-6 million 9 23.08%
 
6-9 million 7 17.95%
 
9-12 million 10 25.64%
 
12-15 million 6 15.38%
 
15-18 million 0 0%
 
18-21 million 2 5.13%
 
21-24 million 1 2.56%
 
above 24 million 1 2.56%
 
Total:39

Sales are irrelevant now thanks to GamePass. And if they wall multiplayer behind GamePass it will muddy the sales numbers even more.



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Accounting for Game Pass, rumours of F2P and recent events, 3-6mil looks like the safe bet.

Their comments about this being an ongoing platform for the future of Halo while not giving out any concrete details, especially for multiplayer, just makes predicting even worse. It's also eroding my optimism.



I'll go with 9-12 million. I think if it launches on Steam it will have very strong sales. No Steam release then I'll drop my prediction to 6-9 million range.



Leynos said:
Of actual sales. 3-8 million. With game pass maybe 13-15 million players but the game itself won't sell a ton at full price. Just doing a lazy open world is not the problem solver for a series losing relevance. Didn't help Gears 5 either. They need to re-invent the mechanics and series to gain new fans. Otherwise just clinging onto an existing fanbase that is declining.

Open world isn't lazy, its just modern game design. Games have had great success leaning into this, so its silly to just dismiss it as lazy.

Being a Gears fan, I actually felt Gears 5 was very notable release. Every Gears game has been virtually the same in core gameplay, Gears 5 felt surprisingly fresh and the general consensus was positive. Gears 4 was underwhelming, Gears 5 was very unique for the series as a whole, maybe Gears 6 will raise the bar further.

Halo 5 wasn't bad but had some genuine problems. Campaign was short and felt half baked. The switch to 60 fps was great but the engine didn't seem equipped for the job visually. Multiplayer was solid but no split screen, a Halo staple.

Halo Infinite could make people happy simply by addressing much of that. People have also complained about the series being too linear, therefore a more open world-ish game is what people are asking for.

I think what's most important for these series is they consistently just do well. I mean if 5-10+ million players still playing these games, whether it be from Gamepass or actual purchases, then I'd say these games are still pretty relevant.



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This game is the base of the "10 years halo project", it will hit 9M sales for sure.
9M-12M for me.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Leynos said:
Of actual sales. 3-8 million. With game pass maybe 13-15 million players but the game itself won't sell a ton at full price. Just doing a lazy open world is not the problem solver for a series losing relevance. Didn't help Gears 5 either. They need to re-invent the mechanics and series to gain new fans. Otherwise just clinging onto an existing fanbase that is declining.

Open world isn't lazy, its just modern game design. Games have had great success leaning into this, so its silly to just dismiss it as lazy.

Being a Gears fan, I actually felt Gears 5 was very notable release. Every Gears game has been virtually the same in core gameplay, Gears 5 felt surprisingly fresh and the general consensus was positive. Gears 4 was underwhelming, Gears 5 was very unique for the series as a whole, maybe Gears 6 will raise the bar further.

Halo 5 wasn't bad but had some genuine problems. Campaign was short and felt half baked. The switch to 60 fps was great but the engine didn't seem equipped for the job visually. Multiplayer was solid but no split screen, a Halo staple.

Halo Infinite could make people happy simply by addressing much of that. People have also complained about the series being too linear, therefore a more open world-ish game is what people are asking for.

I think what's most important for these series is they consistently just do well. I mean if 5-10+ million players still playing these games, whether it be from Gamepass or actual purchases, then I'd say these games are still pretty relevant.

Open world is not modern. Tacking on open world without having elements that make it feel alive is a lazy tacked on to solve all in their mind. Lighting is bad. Grass and trees don't sway or move at all. Halo looks flat and lifeless.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Leynos said:
Mr Puggsly said:

Open world isn't lazy, its just modern game design. Games have had great success leaning into this, so its silly to just dismiss it as lazy.

Being a Gears fan, I actually felt Gears 5 was very notable release. Every Gears game has been virtually the same in core gameplay, Gears 5 felt surprisingly fresh and the general consensus was positive. Gears 4 was underwhelming, Gears 5 was very unique for the series as a whole, maybe Gears 6 will raise the bar further.

Halo 5 wasn't bad but had some genuine problems. Campaign was short and felt half baked. The switch to 60 fps was great but the engine didn't seem equipped for the job visually. Multiplayer was solid but no split screen, a Halo staple.

Halo Infinite could make people happy simply by addressing much of that. People have also complained about the series being too linear, therefore a more open world-ish game is what people are asking for.

I think what's most important for these series is they consistently just do well. I mean if 5-10+ million players still playing these games, whether it be from Gamepass or actual purchases, then I'd say these games are still pretty relevant.

Open world is not modern. Tacking on open world without having elements that make it feel alive is a lazy tacked on to solve all in their mind. Lighting is bad. Grass and trees don't sway or move at all. Halo looks flat and lifeless.

I said, "open world-ish." The trailer actually made the world look more lively than before, those birds got me stoked.

Vegetation sway is a day two patch.

IGN: Grass doesn't sway... 4/10.



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Mr Puggsly said:
Leynos said:

Open world is not modern. Tacking on open world without having elements that make it feel alive is a lazy tacked on to solve all in their mind. Lighting is bad. Grass and trees don't sway or move at all. Halo looks flat and lifeless.

I said, "open world-ish." The trailer actually made the world look more lively than before, those birds got me stoked.

Vegetation sway is a day two patch.

IGN: Grass doesn't sway... 4/10.

It's more than just a patch. It also has to do with MS being poor supervising projects this past gen and using an outdated engine they are trying to work around with mixed results  https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/hyqtkm/they_already_have_warned_us/

I'm leaving this hear and not going to continue this for pages on end.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Leynos said:
Mr Puggsly said:

I said, "open world-ish." The trailer actually made the world look more lively than before, those birds got me stoked.

Vegetation sway is a day two patch.

IGN: Grass doesn't sway... 4/10.

It's more than just a patch. It also has to do with MS being poor supervising projects this past gen and using an outdated engine they are trying to work around with mixed results  https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/hyqtkm/they_already_have_warned_us/

I'm leaving this hear and not going to continue this for pages on end.

I don't know what the issue is ultimately given we haven't seen the final product or what the engine is truly capable of. The engine may seem more impressive when Series X is the lead.

I kept expectations fairly low on the visual side, primarily due to the base X1 focus and 60 fps.

Either way, I got the hardware and years of Gamepass. So I will play it regardless.



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I think it will be a much more popular game than Halo 5 has proved to be... but will 'sell' fewer copies. Game pass is pretty compelling.