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curl-6 said:
tbone51 said:

Ok so globally it is then. 20-21mil would be extraordinary by where it’s currently at without big software, you do realize that right? With Nintendo sold out of hardware almost all WW, no big games like you said and only ports / AC momentum/ paper Mario / DLC / etc would be more impressive than it did year before.

also you said momentum, let me ask you this. If Nintendo did do 20-21mil with just all that, what the hell you think is going to happen in FY2022 with actually big games/much more software/new model/etc?  That would mean momentum is still going strong even better than if it were to do 24-25mil with big games/more software :)

We don't know yet that they don't have big new games still to come this year. (Beyond Paper Mario) I'm choosing to be optimistic and still hope.

Oh me as well, release FZero!!!!!!!! Or maybe a New big IP.... something good!!!



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kirby007 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Only if they never release another game in Japan.

Seriously though, why is this even a contemplation?

because if this is the last big trick it wont reach 22 million in japan

Switch's last big trick in Japan is called "third party domination".  Every dev that made games for 3DS and Vita will make games for Switch.  Also most of the PS4 third party devs will also be making Switch games.  Switch is already the primary home system in Japan.  That means it's going to be the platform for most Japanese devs that were making games for the PS4.

The only reason to make a game for the PS5 is if it has a significant Western market (e.g. Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, etc...).  The vast majority of Japanese third party titles will be on Switch and many of those will be exclusives.  It doesn't make financial sense for third parties to do otherwise.  Switch is going to be the dominant platform for third parties at least until Nintendo releases a successor.



The_Liquid_Laser said:
kirby007 said:

because if this is the last big trick it wont reach 22 million in japan

Switch's last big trick in Japan is called "third party domination".  Every dev that made games for 3DS and Vita will make games for Switch.  Also most of the PS4 third party devs will also be making Switch games.  Switch is already the primary home system in Japan.  That means it's going to be the platform for most Japanese devs that were making games for the PS4.

The only reason to make a game for the PS5 is if it has a significant Western market (e.g. Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, etc...).  The vast majority of Japanese third party titles will be on Switch and many of those will be exclusives.  It doesn't make financial sense for third parties to do otherwise.  Switch is going to be the dominant platform for third parties at least until Nintendo releases a successor.

When does this third party domination start? 



Yeah I'm starting to doubt this surge of third party Switch support from Japanese developers will ever materialize. No matter how well Switch sells, they continue to snub it.



Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

The_Liquid_Laser said:
kirby007 said:

because if this is the last big trick it wont reach 22 million in japan

Switch's last big trick in Japan is called "third party domination".  Every dev that made games for 3DS and Vita will make games for Switch.  Also most of the PS4 third party devs will also be making Switch games.  Switch is already the primary home system in Japan.  That means it's going to be the platform for most Japanese devs that were making games for the PS4.

The only reason to make a game for the PS5 is if it has a significant Western market (e.g. Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, etc...).  The vast majority of Japanese third party titles will be on Switch and many of those will be exclusives.  It doesn't make financial sense for third parties to do otherwise.  Switch is going to be the dominant platform for third parties at least until Nintendo releases a successor.

Until I see games like Persona 5 Royal, Kingdom Hearts 1.5 + 2.5 + whatever is left, Street Fighter (beyond the anniversary collection), Soul Calibur, Tomb Raider, Yakuza, Tekken, etc., I won’t hold my breath. Hell, I would be shocked if any of these devs release an original semi-AAA game on the Switch. Sure, we have games like Bayo 3, Bravely Default II, No More Heroes 3, and SMT V, but two of them are Nintendo published (so they needed a little help to get them off the ground), and we haven’t heard anything much from SMT V and I’m not sure if Atlus will place as much care on that game as they did with Persona 5. Dragon Quest XI S shows that these high-profile Japanese titles can perform well on Switch. Sure it’s not RE2R or FFVIIR, but it’s still a high-profile game on Switch. Unless I see any sign of that on Switch beyond what we know now, ports and original games, I will brush off the possibility.

As I said before, what more do the Japanese devs want at this point? Nintendo to $&@? their you-know-what’s to be even “considered” as part of their dev plans? I don’t know.



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Famitsu Sales: Week 22, 2020 (May 25 - May 31)

01./01. [NSW] Animal Crossing: New Horizons # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2020.03.20} (¥5.980) - 102.749 / 4.685.419 <80-100%> (+0%)
02./00. [NSW] Xenoblade Chronicles: Definitive Edition # <RPG> (Nintendo) {2020.05.29} (¥5.980) - 90.789 / NEW <60-80%>
03./02. [NSW] Ring Fit Adventure <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.10.18} (¥7.980) - 39.518 / 956.559 <80-100%> (+236%)
04./00. [PS4] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Azure - Kai <RPG> (Nihon Falcom) {2020.05.28} (¥3.980) - 12.047 / NEW <60-80%>
05./04. [NSW] Mario Kart 8 Deluxe <RCE> (Nintendo) {2017.04.28} (¥5.980) - 10.415 / 2.965.844 <80-100%> (+16%)
06./03. [NSW] Splatoon 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2017.07.21} (¥5.980) - 10.041 / 3.437.424 <80-100%> (-1%)
07./00. [NSW] Uta no Prince-Sama: Amazing Aria & Sweet Serenade Love for Nintendo Switch <Uta no Prince-Sama: Amazing Aria Uta no Prince-Sama: Sweet Serenade> <ADV> (Broccoli) {2020.05.28} (¥5.800) - 9.216 / NEW <60-80%>
08./00. [PS4] Bayonetta & Vanquish <Bayonetta Vanquish> <ACT> (Sega) {2020.05.28} (¥3.990) - 7.397 / NEW <60-80%>
09./07. [NSW] Super Smash Bros. Ultimate # <FTG> (Nintendo) {2018.12.07} (¥7.200) - 7.262 / 3.711.072 <80-100%> (+23%)
10./05. [NSW] Minecraft # <ADV> (Microsoft Game Studios) {2018.06.21} (¥3.600) - 6.741 / 1.399.850 <80-100%> (+10%)
11./09. [NSW] Super Mario Party # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2018.10.05} (¥5.980) - 5.827 / 1.456.920 <80-100%> (+21%)
12./10. [NSW] Pokemon Sword / Shield # <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2019.11.15} (¥5.980) - 5.707 / 3.607.959 <80-100%> (+27%)
13./06. [PS4] Final Fantasy VII Remake # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.10} (¥8.980) - 5.048 / 919.287 <80-100%> (-14%)
14./08. [NSW] Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch <HOB> (Nintendo) {2019.12.27} (¥3.480) - 4.964 / 239.699 <80-100%> (-13%)
15./15. [NSW] The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild # <ADV> (Nintendo) {2017.03.03} (¥6.980) - 3.338 / 1.590.728 <80-100%> (+12%)
16./16. [NSW] Super Mario Maker 2 # <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.06.28} (¥5.980) - 3.108 / 919.001 <80-100%> (+11%)
17./14. [PS4] Grand Theft Auto V: Premium Online Edition <Grand Theft Auto V Grand Theft Auto Online> [2][Reprint] <ACT> (Take-Two Interactive Japan) {2019.11.07} (¥3.500) - 3.062 / 57.288 <80-100%> (+1%)
18./19. [NSW] New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe <New Super Mario Bros. U New Super Luigi U> <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.01.11} (¥5.980) - 3.031 / 847.090 <80-100%> (+23%)
19./13. [NSW] Trials of Mana # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.24} (¥5.980) - 2.996 / 96.809 <80-100%> (-20%)
20./12. [PS4] Trials of Mana # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.04.24} (¥5.980) - 2.973 / 129.811 <80-100%> (-27%)
21./00. [NSW] Dairoku: Ayakashimori # <ADV> (Idea Factory) {2020.05.28} (¥6.500) - 2.457 / NEW <60-80%>
22./27. [NSW] Dragon Quest XI S: Echoes of an Elusive Age - Definitive Edition # <RPG> (Square Enix) {2019.09.27} (¥7.980) - 2.277 / 522.970 <80-100%> (+33%)
23./22. [NSW] Luigi's Mansion 3 <ACT> (Nintendo) {2019.10.31} (¥5.980) - 2.249 / 647.434 <80-100%> (+13%)
24./25. [3DS] Animal Crossing: New Leaf - Welcome amiibo # <ETC> (Nintendo) {2016.11.23} (¥2.700) - 2.155 / 508.923 <80-100%> (+18%)
25./21. [PS4] Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne Master Edition <Monster Hunter: World Monster Hunter: World - Iceborne> # <ACT> (Capcom) {2019.09.06} (¥6.990) - 1.968 / 473.895 <80-100%> (-2%)
26./17. [NSW] Dragon Quest X: All in One Package Ver.1-5 {Dragon Quest X: Rise of the Five Tribes Online Dragon Quest X: The Sleeping Hero and the Guiding Sworn Friend Online Dragon Quest X: Legend of the Ancient Dragon Online Dragon Quest X: 5000 Year Journey to a Faraway Hometown Online Dragon Quest X: The Maiden of Thorns and the God of Destruction Online} <RPG> (Square Enix) {2020.05.14} (¥4.800) - 1.954 / 10.385 <40-60%>
27./18. [PS4] The Last of Us Remastered <The Last of Us The Last of Us: Left Behind> [PlayStation Hits] <ADV> (Sony Interactive Entertainment) {2018.07.26} (¥1.990) - 1.905 / 77.761 <80-100%> (-28%)
28./28. [NSW] Fishing Spirits: Nintendo Switch Version <SPT> (Bandai Namco Games) {2019.07.25} (¥5.700) - 1.838 / 440.969 <80-100%> (+11%)
29./26. [NSW] Fitness Boxing <HOB> (Imagineer) {2018.12.20} (¥5.800) - 1.833 / 110.521 <80-100%> (+5%)
30./24. [NSW] Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX <RPG> (Pokemon Co.) {2020.03.06} (¥5.980) - 1.778 / 255.177 <80-100%> (-3%)

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NSW - 22
PS4 - 7
3DS - 1



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TOP 10 Switch Famitsu 2020:

  1. Animal Crossing: New Horizons(2020) - 4.685.419 
  2. Pokemon Sword / Shield - 619.825
  3. Ring Fit Adventure - 460.920
  4. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 306.835
  5. Smash Ultimate - 258.020
  6. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Rescue Team DX(2020) - 255.177
  7. Minecraft - 253.911
  8. Dr. Kawashima's Brain Training for Nintendo Switch - 205.003
  9. Super Mario Party - 193.210
  10. Splatoon 2 - 184.664

TOTAL: 7.422.984

TOP 10 Switch Famitsu 2019:

  1. Pokemon Sword / Shield - 2.744.658
  2. Smash Ultimate - 1.057.012
  3. Super Mario Maker 2 - 774.102
  4. New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe - 735.437
  5. Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 587.829
  6. Minecraft - 579.998
  7. Super Mario Party - 464.208
  8. Dragon Quest XI: Echoes of an Elusive Age S - 456.426
  9. Luigi's Mansion 3 - 446.649
  10. Ring Fit Adventure - 443.118

TOTAL: 8.289.437

Ring Fit Adventure has sold 460K units in 2020, which means that the 2020 sales have surpassed its launch year 2019. 

  • Ring Fit Adventure (2020) - 460.920
  • Ring Fit Adventure (2019) - 443.118

Pokemon Sun/Moon is performing worse than Smash Ultimate did last year. If we don't see a major boost due to the recent announcement it will only sell 25K in the next 4 weeks bringing its total to around 650K for the first half of the year. Smash sold 779K during the first half of the year in 2019. It will be interesting how DLC and Expansions affect Pokemon's legs going forward. 

  • Smash Ultimate (first half of 2019) - 779.845
  • Pokemon Sword / Shield (2020) - 619.825


MasonADC said:
The_Liquid_Laser said:

Switch's last big trick in Japan is called "third party domination".  Every dev that made games for 3DS and Vita will make games for Switch.  Also most of the PS4 third party devs will also be making Switch games.  Switch is already the primary home system in Japan.  That means it's going to be the platform for most Japanese devs that were making games for the PS4.

The only reason to make a game for the PS5 is if it has a significant Western market (e.g. Final Fantasy, Resident Evil, etc...).  The vast majority of Japanese third party titles will be on Switch and many of those will be exclusives.  It doesn't make financial sense for third parties to do otherwise.  Switch is going to be the dominant platform for third parties at least until Nintendo releases a successor.

When does this third party domination start? 

It's a gradual transition.  You can look at the top 30 games that Marth just posted.  Switch has 7 third party games and PS4 has 6.  Switch already has a slight lead.  That gap is only going to grow as PS4 gets phased out.



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The_Liquid_Laser said:
MasonADC said:

When does this third party domination start? 

It's a gradual transition.  You can look at the top 30 games that Marth just posted.  Switch has 7 third party games and PS4 has 6.  Switch already has a slight lead.  That gap is only going to grow as PS4 gets phased out.

And then the third parties will start making switch exclusives? Yeah I doubt it. Switch will continue to get multi plat of smaller titles but in no way will it ever dominate. Also It makes 0 financial sense for third parties to make switch exclusives