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Dulfite on 01 June 2020

I never even heard of Trial of Mana a year ago whereas everyone and their grandmother's has heard of Final Fantasy.

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DonFerrari on 01 June 2020

Because it isn't as good. FFVIIR for me looks and play 100x better than the original even if only covering a part of the story and it felt satisfying and enough for an entry already saying it will be continued.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 01 June 2020
Conina said:
I expected a discussion about PS4 fan noises while playing these games.

Nintendo fans are as noisy as Playstation though =p



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 01 June 2020
Mar1217 said:
Ok. First, 74-76 Metacritic isn't anything near to mediocrity. Second, as advertise ToM was simply going to be a more budget sensitive project than FFVII Alternative, yet after my playthrough it easily achieved the barem of what it tried to achieved in comparison to it's original release.

Anywoo, it's sold numbers from PC + Japan = more than 400K-500K copies sold. With the West, it's probably around 700K-800K right now.
If it reaches a million, I'll consider this a success for SE.

74-76 is almost the definition of mediocrity on Metacritic, it is a very near to average score.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Dulfite on 01 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
Mar1217 said:
Ok. First, 74-76 Metacritic isn't anything near to mediocrity. Second, as advertise ToM was simply going to be a more budget sensitive project than FFVII Alternative, yet after my playthrough it easily achieved the barem of what it tried to achieved in comparison to it's original release.

Anywoo, it's sold numbers from PC + Japan = more than 400K-500K copies sold. With the West, it's probably around 700K-800K right now.
If it reaches a million, I'll consider this a success for SE.

74-76 is almost the definition of mediocrity on Metacritic, it is a very near to average score.

Are you my father?



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Leynos on 01 June 2020
DonFerrari said:
Because it isn't as good. FFVIIR for me looks and play 100x better than the original even if only covering a part of the story and it felt satisfying and enough for an entry already saying it will be continued.

Nah. ToMR is great. Tho I find this thread unnecessary as the popularity of the two has a massive gap between them and it should be obvious.



Bite my shiny metal cockpit!

Spike0503 on 01 June 2020
Otter said:

Aside from the IP comparisons, a game of Final Fantasy's budget and art direction is just on another level in terms of mass appeal.

As Final Fantasy games became less and less frequent, I started to look for other JRPGs to fill the gulf and then I sadly realised that there are very few games which has the same art sensibilities, blending western and japanese styles. Often JRPGS are just too anime feeling and tell stories in a ways that I struggle to get into.

Even when you take budget out of the equation. Something like FFVIII or IX which 21 years old still looks more appealing to me character and world wise.



When Anime is done with distinction (Persona for example) or I'm told that something is extremely good, then I'll check it out. 


You hit the nail on the head for me and even provided an example that I 100% agree with. I adore VII and VIII for their blend of modernity and fantasy. There's just not that many J-RPGs with the kind of aesthetics the FF games have. I really wanna get into more classic J-RPGs but after playing FF VI-VII-VIII there's just not that many that connect me with me in the same way.

I tried to get into the Breath of Fire games some time ago and I just couldn't get into them for that reason. That's why the Mana games don't interest me at all.



DonFerrari on 01 June 2020

Dulfite said:
DonFerrari said:

74-76 is almost the definition of mediocrity on Metacritic, it is a very near to average score.

Are you my father?

I'm a lot stricter with my son and myself =p

But that is real, only very bad games get a 50-60 meta, the average game is on the 75 neighborhood.

Leynos said:
DonFerrari said:
Because it isn't as good. FFVIIR for me looks and play 100x better than the original even if only covering a part of the story and it felt satisfying and enough for an entry already saying it will be continued.

Nah. ToMR is great. Tho I find this thread unnecessary as the popularity of the two has a massive gap between them and it should be obvious.

On your opinion. Doesn't really seem to be a consensus.

Spike0503 said:
Otter said:

Aside from the IP comparisons, a game of Final Fantasy's budget and art direction is just on another level in terms of mass appeal.

As Final Fantasy games became less and less frequent, I started to look for other JRPGs to fill the gulf and then I sadly realised that there are very few games which has the same art sensibilities, blending western and japanese styles. Often JRPGS are just too anime feeling and tell stories in a ways that I struggle to get into.

Even when you take budget out of the equation. Something like FFVIII or IX which 21 years old still looks more appealing to me character and world wise.



When Anime is done with distinction (Persona for example) or I'm told that something is extremely good, then I'll check it out. 


You hit the nail on the head for me and even provided an example that I 100% agree with. I adore VII and VIII for their blend of modernity and fantasy. There's just not that many J-RPGs with the kind of aesthetics the FF games have. I really wanna get into more classic J-RPGs but after playing FF VI-VII-VIII there's just not that many that connect me with me in the same way.

I tried to get into the Breath of Fire games some time ago and I just couldn't get into them for that reason. That's why the Mana games don't interest me at all.

I played several JRPG to basically discover that i don't like JRPGs in general, but love FF.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Spike0503 on 01 June 2020
DonFerrari said:

I played several JRPG to basically discover that i don't like JRPGs in general, but love FF.

Maybe I wouldn't got that far cause I've played and liked some others like Chrono Trigger and Legend of Dragoon but I can definitely echo your sentiment. I don't love every FF but when I find one that I do enjoy then there just isn't anything quite like it out there.




DonFerrari on 01 June 2020
Spike0503 said:
DonFerrari said:

I played several JRPG to basically discover that i don't like JRPGs in general, but love FF.

Maybe I wouldn't got that far cause I've played and liked some others like Chrono Trigger and Legend of Dragoon but I can definitely echo your sentiment. I don't love every FF but when I find one that I do enjoy then there just isn't anything quite like it out there.

Perhaps I was a little harsh since there are some I liked, Persona (probably will like Yakuza 7), Nier, kinda liked Ni-no-kuni and Tales of Zestiria, etc. But I can't say I like the genre as a whole. But if I analyze myself I don't really love a specific genre, it is more of some genres I like more games and others I like less.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."