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Oneeee-Chan!!! on 14 May 2020
kirby007 said:

@oneee-chan!!!

Because its a presentation of the engine not the HW
which i said a couple of pages back

So, do you believe what Lisa Sue said?



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kirby007 on 14 May 2020
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
kirby007 said:

@oneee-chan!!!

Because its a presentation of the engine not the HW
which i said a couple of pages back

So, do you believe what Lisa Sue said?

Yes, i believe it is generated on the PS5 without a doubt, but its not made by Sony



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Oneeee-Chan!!! on 14 May 2020
kirby007 said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

So, do you believe what Lisa Sue said?

Yes, i believe it is generated on the PS5 without a doubt, but its not made by Sony

Lol, I had never cared about it



JRPGfan on 14 May 2020
kirby007 said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:

So, do you believe what Lisa Sue said?

Yes, i believe it is generated on the PS5 without a doubt, but its not made by Sony

But Tim Sweeny did say that the same Tech demo wouldnt be possible on anything but the PS5 currently.
So its not made by Sony, but "for" the PS5.

Basically the load on the SSD to run this level of detail, with the 8k textures, ect would be too demanding for the XSX.
They would have to do work to get it running on XSX, and might have to lower quality of textures or amounts, because it couldnt load them as fast as the PS5 does.



kirby007 on 14 May 2020
JRPGfan said:
kirby007 said:

Yes, i believe it is generated on the PS5 without a doubt, but its not made by Sony

But Tim Sweeny did say that the same Tech demo wouldnt be possible on anything but the PS5 currently.
So its not made by Sony, but "for" the PS5.

Basically the load on the SSD to run this level of detail, with the 8k textures, ect would be too demanding for the XSX.
They would have to do work to get it running on XSX, and might have to lower quality of textures or amounts, because it couldnt load them as fast as the PS5 does.

keyword PC's



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DonFerrari on 14 May 2020
The_Liquid_Laser said:
DonFerrari said:

The series X event also didn't show any full game, just glimpses of target rendering on mostly CG footage instead of real gameplay representing the real game. So not sure why the demo running realtime is an issue.

But Microsoft and Sony have been showing a lot of nothing so far.  Microsoft has been worse, but Sony is starting to follow suit.  Where are the games?  What is the hardware price?  You know, the actual important stuff, where is it?  This little tech demo looked really nice, but it's only a little tech demo.  Everything has been much ado about nothing so far.

We have had plenty of threads about Sony bad marketing and stuff, not showing, etc. They aren't planning to reveal anything meaningfull before TLOU2 and GoT because that would take away the hype from both, we are still 6 months from launch so there is no need to rush.



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DonFerrari on 14 May 2020
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
kirby007 said:

thats hilariously naive

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/1260683274524848131?s=20

https://twitter.com/aarongree

tatus/1260683274524848131?s=20

Now I remember ,that you've always doubted the PS5's raytracing.

Say those words to yourself.

By the way, Aaron said that the XBOX could do the same .Then you should wonder why they didn't make the  demo like ps5.

Because Sweeney explained it wouldn't be possible to do the same in Xbox.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

kirby007 on 14 May 2020

@DonFerrari stop the echochamber and look for his actual statement

The PlayStation 5 has a huge amount of GPU power, but also a greatly improved bandwidth for access to the storage medium. That is going to be really critical, "said Keighley. He explains the importance of this." It is one thing to be able to render everything in memory. However, it only becomes really impressive if you can render a huge world that is several gigabytes in size. In addition, the new M.2 Solid-State drive from Sony comes into play. "

According to Keighley, the SSD used by Sony is so fast that there is currently no model on the commercial market for sale that can compete with it. He even goes so far as to say that the PlayStation 5 is at the forefront of the PC market and will encourage them to use faster SSDs. That is highly unusual, normally consoles lag behind what is possible in PCs, partly because of the cost of a console.



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dane007 on 14 May 2020
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
kirby007 said:

well if this demo is using ground breaking solutions, why cant they go actually big dick and show this in native 4k?

If UE5 supports Series X,

Don't you wonder that MS didn't  show the tech demo off on an XseX?

Thats because its the first party games that seem to be using it according to Phil like hellblade. The event showing for first party is in July. Thats more likely the reason why u havent seen it but both systems are nore than capable of running ue5. 



sales2099 on 14 May 2020
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
kirby007 said:

thats hilariously naive

https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/status/1260683274524848131?s=20

https://twitter.com/aarongree

tatus/1260683274524848131?s=20

Now I remember ,that you've always doubted the PS5's raytracing.

Say those words to yourself.

By the way, Aaron said that the XBOX could do the same .Then you should wonder why they didn't make the  demo like ps5.

Sony money might have something to do with it ;)

The irony is that more Xbox studios use UE then PS. The Coalition with Gears 5 and NT with Hellblade is some of the best use of UE on consoles this gen. 



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