square and playstation's relationships has only ever been that of a tird party and major developer. an important one but still....

square and nintendo's was almost that of a psudo sencond party dev, like what rare became almost immediatly upon square's departure. nintendo subsitized ALL localization of FF1-6, and more telling, they gve them mario to work with for SMRPG, something that nintendo arely does NOWADAYS, and was almost unheard of back then, we all know how protective nintendo is of their ip....

I remember reading that Sony bought shares in Square and saved them from closing during this time. This is part of the reason why several games stayed as console exclusives and in the case of Final Fantasy 9, they didn't even release it on Windows as it stayed a Playstation 1 exclusive until 2016. And ten years without talking is just a silly overstatement. Chocobo Land: A Game of Dice came out in 2002 for the Gameboy Advance along with Crystal Chronicles on the Gamecube in 2003. The years of not communicating would be 1997 - 2002, maybe even 2001 if that's when developement started.

Nintendo strict rules weren't necessary nor even productive in several parts.

Why they should strictly develop for Nintendo? How did that help the industry? Several devs started developing 2 games at different teams for the same title to avoid this rule as well.

Why should these devs be limited to 5 games? It doesn't ensure quality. You can demand QA and that you validate the quality before release, but you can have a company doing 2 games and both being utter shit while other do 10 and they are all great. Nintendo didn't limit themselves to 5 games and several companies opened multiple studios to avoid this obnoxious rule.

To give all the credit to Nintendo for saving the industry and even further saying that it was because of these bad rules is ridiculous. If that was the understanding of the devs (they are in the business) they would be grateful of Nintendo and not pissed trying to find any platform with better rules, just like they did going to Genesis and then Playstation and not really wanting to be under Nintendo, at most doing multiplats but several not even wanting to dev to Nintendo at all.

And sure also putting all the blame of Sony Nintendo deal not working out on evil Sony, yes sure, Nintendo top brass were all gullible people that signed a very evil deal with Sony and them latter discovered they were betrayed, that also may be the reason why Nintendo actions were very badly received in Japan and that their deal with Phillips didn't work out.

Of course (thread is about Nintendo's relationship with third parties during that time).  Btw, guys we dont need to  keep bringing SONY up as some deflection tool. I bring it up multiple times Kutaragi was also a asshole and SONY used to threaten 3rd parties with not being able to publish if their port wasnt the best.

Fair point. Sony obviously didn't have a strong development background like Nintendo and Sega when they entered the market so their strategy was securing third parties with great games. They did one hell of a job with that.

By ignoring some facts, of course only Nintendo had fault in this, Square and Sony didn't do anything wrong to you.

I am a customer, not a 3rd party so as long as some of their games are still good to me, i don't care about that, but obviously a lot of non-Nintendo fans (especially Sony fans) care about this matter for some reasons.

Fairly sure the limiting publishers to so many games a year was NES only as SEGA came along with Genesis which was a more powerful and attractive platform without those restrictions. Konami's Ultra brand vanished after the NES era. NOA still had restrictions on religion and nudity of course. MK had sweat and no blood but after the feedback, MKII brought it back.SEGA forced Nintendo out of some of those aspects. Night Trap was possibly being ported to Nintendo PlayStation CD add on. When at the senate hearings Nintendo showed the game trying to pass the footage off as SEGA CD and saying this filth would never appear on a Nintendo system (lol Nintendo Switch says hi btw) but the quality was much better than SEGA CD.

Cool.... Ya do know this is kinda the topic of the thread right? If you are not interested in discussing said topic then you shouldnt be here. Btw, Nintendo vs third  parties has been the major topic on this side of the forum since the birth of the site, mostly initiated by Nintendo fans.

Did it really last 10 years?When did Crystal Chronicles launch?Because as far as I remember that title was thought to be the game that healed Nintendo and Square relationship.