AZ and ME go to Biden, WI is now squeaking his way. If he gets that and NV he'll need just PA, MI, or GA to win. This may come down to last minute mail-ins and not getting fucked by the courts or rogue electors. I'm not discounting any outcome yet.
| TallSilhouette said: AZ and ME go to Biden, WI is now squeaking his way. If he gets that and NV he'll need just PA, MI, or GA to win. This may come down to last minute mail-ins and not getting fucked by the courts or rogue electors. I'm not discounting any outcome yet. |
It's definitely far from over and it will probably get down to the wire
Srassy said:
Very good! If you understand Republican talking points then you're are in a good place to talk out the ideas with the opposing side. Calling people Nazis is very bad persuasion |
If Republicans and their followers had the mental capacity to be persuaded I wouldn't hate them so much.
Nazis are fascist racists. The President is a fascist racist who supports white supremacists. So what do you think I should call his followers?
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Astral said:
I can't blame the US president for our problems, can I? The truth is, ISIS grew among us and we allowed it. We live in a developing country, our attempts to change usually results in chaos and death, we pretty much don't know how to change things for the better. But that is our problem. Maybe Obama was wise not to get too involved? On the other hand Trump has been an agent of chaos. Pulling out of the deal with Iran. The recognition of Jerusalem as capital of Israel. Assassination of Qasem Soleimani and bragging about it on Twitter. Most, if not all of his decisions did nothing but disturbing the region. Anyways, all of this is off-topic I have no interest in changing anyone's mind. Just sharing my own. |
To be fair he did a lot in terms of foreign policy. Russia and North Korea are no longer a threat due to better relations. Under Trump the ISIS leader was killed. The Iranian general was responsible for crimes against the US and defanged Iran, including backing out of the nuclear deal that lets be honest benefitted Iran and nobody else. Israel is literally surrounded by counties that want to wipe it off the map. Trump essentially legitimized the country globally by recognizing its claim.
Your opinion is fine, just offering a different perspective. Obama was too soft on foreign affairs.
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Ka-pi96 said:
Easily possible. Depends what it was before, and exactly how big that "1%" was. Could've been pretty close before. And the "1%" may have been bigger than 1% should've been. Maybe there were rounding differences (it was 93.5 rounded up to 94 before, now it's 95.4 rounded down to 95, so it was actually a 1.9% increase), or it could have been that the % counted estimate was off and there were more votes waiting to be counted than they had realised so as well as increasing the number they also made it more accurate. |
It gives me the impression it was votes they found somewhere and they were not including in the total count.
At the moment actually Trump is in a good position in WI because the counties that didnt finish voting are mostly pro Trump and Biden lead is only 8k votes. UNless more votes are found somewhere that were not included in the total.
vivster said:
If Republicans and their followers had the mental capacity to be persuaded I wouldn't hate them so much. Nazis are fascist racists. The President is a fascist racist who supports white supremacists. So what do you think I should call his followers? |
To be fair the bad apples only represent a tiny minority of the whole, which are simply mainstream conservative. People who have strong family, religious, and working values. Like I know BLM rioters and Antifa don’t represent the whole of Democrats but that’s just the flip side of the coin.
Most of the time I see when a Democrat and Republican try to have a discussion, it’s always the dem who resorts to dehumanizing tactics by calling the rep a racist when conversationally backed in a corner. My perspective is that dems silence speech, bully into thinking like them and threaten with job loss and violence if you disagree. To me that’s worse then Trump not being a likeable guy.
Not really looking for a fight, but honestly giving you the perspective of the other side.
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sales2099 said:
To be fair the bad apples only represent a tiny minority of the whole, which are simply mainstream conservative. People who have strong family, religious, and working values. Like I know BLM rioters and Antifa don’t represent the whole of Democrats but that’s just the flip side of the coin. Most of the time I see when a Democrat and Republican try to have a discussion, it’s always the dem who resorts to dehumanizing tactics by calling the rep a racist when conversationally backed in a corner. My perspective is that dems silence speech, bully into thinking like them and threaten with job loss and violence if you disagree. To me that’s worse then Trump not being a likeable guy. Not really looking for a fight, but honestly giving you the perspective of the other side. |
For me it is all about policy, individuals do not matter unless they impact policy. The Republican party stands for every policy I don't like and think is anti human rights and anti democracy.
If I have to vote for either a man who will shoot me instantly dead or a man who will slap me every day I will immediately vote the slapping guy. I will not question the slapping guy's morals, I will not try to dig up dirt on him and I will not care about anything the shooting guy says. I will vote for Slappy because Slappy will not kill me immediately. Me not being dead trumps every single thing Shooty could offer me.
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| Rab said: The Est Dems are proven war mongers, have mediocre policies on climate change, and are not for universal healthcare and free college tuition, hardly surprising enthusiasm for them has been lower than expected |
Well, true. At least Biden seemed a bit more willing to include the left wing than Clinton. Although his vice president pick...
Here I hope for AOC 2024.
Ka-pi96 said:
Do they even know the total though? It seems a bit silly to me to count the total number of votes and then go through and count again to see who they were for. It would make more sense not to actually know the total votes there were (or are left to count) until you've finished counting how many votes each candidate had. |
Based on what Im reading WI and MI are dumping absentee ballots this morning which it seems they should not do, the limit was election day in those states I think.
Biden has a really good chance to win actually
god, bookings have lost it, Biden back in the lead slightly, 50-50
too god damn close
don't mind my username, that was more than 10 years ago, I'm a different person now, amazing how people change ^_^
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