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Runa216 said:
JEMC said:
Well, I hope they disclose the specs so we can compare both consoles, and know which are their strengths and weakness.

why, though? Xbox One X didn't make people flock to that console, so why would it matter here? PS4 and Xbox One had virtually identical specs at launch and both sold similar numbers over the first month or so, it wasn't until the disparity between games became evident that PS4 really pulled ahead. 

This is standard business 101. The Xbox x came too late to make a difference. However at the start of the gen it’s the core gamers that define the user base and less so the casuals that follow. You must factor in everything at play, both sides care about power and if you say otherwise....well at least my side is honest with what we want, there’s no false modesty at play ;)

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Runa216 said:
JEMC said:
Well, I hope they disclose the specs so we can compare both consoles, and know which are their strengths and weakness.

why, though? Xbox One X didn't make people flock to that console, so why would it matter here? PS4 and Xbox One had virtually identical specs at launch and both sold similar numbers over the first month or so, it wasn't until the disparity between games became evident that PS4 really pulled ahead. 

Because those will be the base models that will set the bar of what can be expect from their developments. We'll get an idea of what kinds of troubles will devs face when working with them (will one have more RAM? Faster CPU or more powerful GPU?, etc.) and if we should expect noticeable differences between the ports of the same game on both consoles (higher and/or more constant resolution and FPS).

Plus, until next games start to be shown, that all we'll have to discuss.



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sales2099 said:
Runa216 said:

I think Y'all forgot Sony planned on a late feb/early March announcement up until Corona became a big deal. There's no 'reactionary' actions here, aside from them maybe waiting to see what Xbox did so they could ruin them in price again. 

But Xbox didn't announce a price as far as I can tell, soooo....? 

Corona affects Ms too, and yet they released the specs first. Lol why is this such a big deal? I get it, Sony is the top dog. It’s ok they were undercut by 2 days. It’s not a big deal and in the grand scheme this means nothing 

Then why are you trying to make such a big deal out of it? My point was simply that this isn't Sony being reactionary - they always planned on releasing info around this time and the only reason Xbox got to it first was because Sony delayed. If anything, Microsoft was reacting to Sony's absence - if you wanna go that route of logic. Just saying, when you WANT to see something, it's not hard to twist the facts to suit your narrative. 



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Bloodborne, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, God of War, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Dark Souls III, Red Dead Redemption II

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Runa216 said:
sales2099 said:

Corona affects Ms too, and yet they released the specs first. Lol why is this such a big deal? I get it, Sony is the top dog. It’s ok they were undercut by 2 days. It’s not a big deal and in the grand scheme this means nothing 

Then why are you trying to make such a big deal out of it? My point was simply that this isn't Sony being reactionary - they always planned on releasing info around this time and the only reason Xbox got to it first was because Sony delayed. If anything, Microsoft was reacting to Sony's absence - if you wanna go that route of logic. Just saying, when you WANT to see something, it's not hard to twist the facts to suit your narrative. 

It’s ironic that you are twisting yourself. Sony delayed...Um ok? MS didn’t and went first. Sony announced a reveal event literally the day after MS showed theirs. That’s reactionary. Yes I get it Sony planned to do something around this time but you certainly can’t prove it was always going to be tomorrow.

MS went first, and Sony reacted. They didn’t scramble but are following a planned general timeline. This isn’t even bias but what actually is happening. To say anything to the contrary tells me something...a superiority complex? 

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sales2099 said:
Runa216 said:

why, though? Xbox One X didn't make people flock to that console, so why would it matter here? PS4 and Xbox One had virtually identical specs at launch and both sold similar numbers over the first month or so, it wasn't until the disparity between games became evident that PS4 really pulled ahead. 

This is standard business 101. The Xbox x came too late to make a difference. However at the start of the gen it’s the core gamers that define the user base and less so the casuals that follow. You must factor in everything at play, both sides care about power and if you say otherwise....well at least my side is honest with what we want, there’s no false modesty at play ;)

That right there is your problem. you assume that just because I prefer Sony's offerings that this is a matter of us vs them, and it's just not. This console war mentality needs to go, and the moment you said 'my side' to describe microsoft was the moment I realized that the console wars are still going, it's just a cold war. 

I'm a veteran of the SNES/Genesis era, the PS1/N64 era, the Gamecube/PS2/Xbox Era, and the Wii/Ps3/360 era...I'm done with console wars. all I'm trying to do here is explain WHY Sony is doing what they're doing, and why it's worked and how the PS4 became so successful. All Xbox One needed to do was have good games, but that's where it failed and Sony excelled. Performance wise, the PS4 and Xbone were virtually identical until the half-gen upgrades, where Xbox got a significant boost but still didn't sell as well as the Ps4 Pro. Microsoft offered a more robust backwards compatible business model as well as Game Pass - which is one of the best values in the history of gaming - but it still wasn't enough. No amount of power, backwards compatibility, or....I guess that's really all Xbox had over PS4...will overthrow a great game library. 

IT's like going to a restaurant to get a lovely steak dinner. You can go to a place that has the biggest pile of fries and the loveliest side of veggies in the world, but it's the steak people care about. If one company has a bigger, juicier, meatier steak while the other has a bigger pile of fries and some garnish, the steak is what sells the meal. the garnish and more fries are nice, but they're not what people go there for. The steak is a robust library, the fries are operating power, and the garnish is backwards compatibility in this belaboured metaphor. 



I got it all, baby! 

PS4, Switch, WiiU, XBO, PC
Vita, 3DS, Android

Top 6 this generation: 
Bloodborne, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, God of War, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Dark Souls III, Red Dead Redemption II

I expect nothing more than the specs. We almost 100% won't see the console itself. Just the tech stuff. In case of PS5 I'm more interested in what Sony has to offer in terms of RAM and storage. I think MS will have upperhand in CPU and GPU power because they already set a high bar for the console with what they announced. But on RAM and storage front, I think that Series X is a bit underwhelming so it would be interesting to see if Sony can offer something better here.

Runa216 said:
JEMC said:
Well, I hope they disclose the specs so we can compare both consoles, and know which are their strengths and weakness.

why, though? Xbox One X didn't make people flock to that console, so why would it matter here? PS4 and Xbox One had virtually identical specs at launch and both sold similar numbers over the first month or so, it wasn't until the disparity between games became evident that PS4 really pulled ahead. 

First month sales don't mean a thing in terms of a certain console reception. You know, Xbox One sold better in the week when One X than PS4 when PS4 Pro launched. And it was already after "disparity between games became evident" and PS4 dominated the market. First month sales are front loaded by loyal brand fans, they never reflect general public opinion.



 

sales2099 said:
Runa216 said:

Then why are you trying to make such a big deal out of it? My point was simply that this isn't Sony being reactionary - they always planned on releasing info around this time and the only reason Xbox got to it first was because Sony delayed. If anything, Microsoft was reacting to Sony's absence - if you wanna go that route of logic. Just saying, when you WANT to see something, it's not hard to twist the facts to suit your narrative. 

It’s ironic that you are twisting yourself. Sony delayed...Um ok? MS didn’t and went first. Sony announced a reveal event literally the day after MS showed theirs. That’s reactionary. Yes I get it Sony planned to do something around this time but you certainly can’t prove it was always going to be tomorrow.

MS went first, and Sony reacted. The didn’t scramble. Anything you say to the contrary is you trying to preserve some narrative you have. 

Sure, whatever you say. Keep telling yourself that and I'm going to excuse myself back to a reality that doesn't ignore what happened just a month or two ago. 



I got it all, baby! 

PS4, Switch, WiiU, XBO, PC
Vita, 3DS, Android

Top 6 this generation: 
Bloodborne, Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice, God of War, The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, Dark Souls III, Red Dead Redemption II

So a day after MS reveals their specs Sony makes an Announcement that they are going to reveal theirs tomorrow...
Why not just drop the specs tomorrow without an announcement that they are going to do it?.. An announcement of an announcement xD .