It was boring as hell, but I guess it was meant more for developers than gamers.

It's kind of funny how eager people are to be angry or disappointed. Some people clearly went into this presentation prepared to be angry about it (One person even said, straight up, that if the console didn't have 100% backwards compatibility to PS1 era at launch he'd go with Xbox for the 'first time ever', which I thought was a silly, nonsensical expectation that there was virtually no chance of coming true), and as such have been needlessly hilarious with their responses.

Don't get me wrong, this was a dry, boring-assed presentation that did nothing for me becuase I don't give a shit about specs or the intricacies of how SSDs work (I'm currently at the 19-minute mark in the presentation, as I got distracted doing household things when I shoulda been watching it live), but the difference in speed and performance between PS5 and XBSX isn't enough to make me care when you consider the 25 years of PS history we have to go off.

Guys, (And gals, if there are any here), y'all need to remmeber that specs don't sell a console. The two consoles are pretty close in performance, but it's the exclusives and features that make a world of difference. Power didn't make the Dreamcast win that generation. Power didn't make the Xbox win that generation. Power didn't make the PS3 win that generation. Power didn't make the PSP win its handheld generation. Power didn't make the Vita win its generation. Power didn't make the Xbox One X win its half-generation. The PS1 and PS2 won their generations despite being less impressive. the DS and 3DS dominated their generations. Wii won that generation despite barely being stronger than the Gamecube. the Switch might very well win the 8th gen (Depending on how you look at it) despite it being by far the weakest console out there right now.

Point is, specs are nice (For developers to work with), but for the average joe they mean nothing. cost, games, interface, and features matter. Sony has a history of delivering great games, so even though this presentation has almost put me to sleep, I'm still eager to get the PS5. Still not getting the Xbox Series X, though, because of their history with making games I don't give a shit about. To those who are going to 'jump ship' becuase of this...well, you have fun with your not having any games on a more powerful console. If you're that dense to change what console you play on due to a small change in power...you were never in it for the games or for fun, anyway. Your loss.

Developers already knew all that history lesson, it wasn't for them.

Im sure there were many smaller and indie developers who hadn't gotten that information.

I'm still sure all that explaining about how storage works, how to access storage, how this works how that works was not for them.  They already know all that. It was to educate us the gamers.

Yeah, just on the consumer vs developer level. Playstation should not have promoted this via their consumer facing twitter if it was aimed at developers.

I don't believe this is for developers when developers already have the dev kits, they could have skipped this all together until they were ready to have a few games do the speaking. The meaningful things here SSD speed, Clockspeed, could have been presented in a swift 5mins as part of a larger presentation. Either way no major harm is done and now we know the next time either console is show it will be in a more meaningful capacity.

Well then I hope most other gamers are way smarter than me. This presentation could have been spoken in Klingon and I would be just as informed as I am now.

Very disappointed by the small amount of BC PS4 titles though. Was hoping it would be fully BC with all PS4 games at least...

No loading (or nearly) and good 3d sound sold me to it.

3d sound is my best feature on the PS4 (in VR it blew my mind)

with the $CAD crashing I'm a little afraid of the cost

Oh wait. What did they revea.....zzzz

I fell asleep. Twice.

Oh. Cerny tells me the SSD's are faster than my old hard drive from 2010. Cool, i have one ssd in pc.

This thread sure is entertaining. The only disappointing part was, also limited to 16GB ram. 4K HDR takes 8x the memory of 1080p SDR for a lot of the rendering pipeline, including textures themselves. Compression will help but more memory would have been better. Virtual memory can help, but even this super fast SSD with hw compression has 9 GB/s throughput, compared to 448 GB/s for ram. Yet perhaps the OS can free up more memory by using the SSD for its memory needs. Ray tracing is also a memory hungry process.

I had hoped for 24 GB at least for the upcoming gen. Storage space can be expanded, the 16GB is there for the next 7 years :/

Anyway finally an end to those endless load times. Assuming the patch process is still as asinine next gen, patching GTS (the copying phase) should now last about 45 seconds instead of 35 minutes!