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Best year so far?

2017 29 52.73%
 
2018 2 3.64%
 
2019 13 23.64%
 
2020 0 0%
 
Yet to come 11 20.00%
 
Total:55
RolStoppable said:
JRPGfan said:

The best year is already behinde it.
2017 had Zelda BoTW + Mario Odyssey + Mario Kart 8 delux + Xenoblade Chronicles 2.

No following year(s) is going to beat that for the Switch.
Those are the biggest heavy hitters Nintendo has, and Switch got them early.

Switch 2020 is like Animal Crossing + Xenoblade 1 +  Tokyo Mirage Sessons FE.... not a big year.
I dont think any year left in the switch will beat 2017.

This reminds me of your posts after the Switch reveal when Nintendo had announced that 70 publishers were working on 100 games or something like that. You then used those numbers to downplay Switch's software pipeline because "100 games over the course of four years" weren't going to be much. Now, three years later, you are employing the same flawed logic despite those initially confirmed 100 games turning into well over 2,000 game releases in under three years. What's the lesson here? Lack of announcement does not mean lack of development, so writing off 2020 at the current point in time is plain foolish.

JRPGfan said:

1 new game, that has a niche market space (big in japan) and 2 ports? common.
Both Playstation and Xbox will dwarf that this year... in terms of exclusives.

What makes you think 2020 is a "big" year for switch exlusives then?

ei. your own words back at you, "why are you pretending that it is!?"

The reason why people can be confident about Nintendo's 2020 is because Nintendo always has more games to release in the second half of the year than in the first half. It's called common sense.

What's amusing is that you say Animal Crossing has a niche market space when it is a series that is selling 3m+ copies in every major region, so it's clearly an IP with global popularity. Additionally, in this post of yours sales began to matter, but in the one before Xenoblade Chronicles 2 had qualified for your list. You denounce ports in your more recent post after considering Mario Kart 8 Deluxe eligible before. Hm...

Furthermore, you commit the rookie mistake to expose yourself by putting Xbox over Switch in terms of exclusives. If there was someone who had doubts about your agenda in this thread, said doubts are certainly washed away now.

1) I cant remember that far back, and doubt that I said such.

2) thanks for actually replying something "real" instead of just quoteing to shit post me.
"because Nintendo always has more games to release in the second half of the year than in the first half."

Thats a valid reason, you guess theres more to be announced. Thats ofc is no more valid than my thinking they wont (announce big IP exclusives soon).
Both of us are just guessing. Your guess shouldnt allow you to name call people.

3) "Furthermore, you commit the rookie mistake to expose yourself by putting Xbox over Switch in terms of exclusives."

Where did I do that? Because I assume Xbox Series X launch, will mean Xbox has more "big" exclusives in 2020 than Nintendo does?
You dont expect with the launch of a new console, that Xbox and 3rd party big IPs at launch, will be higher than what Switch recieves this year?
Im not a nintendo hater, or a xbox fanboy...... isnt this just common sense? you dont launch a new console without anything to show for it.

I know here on this forum, Halo isnt a "big" deal anymore.... but surely its bigger than getting Animal crossing right?
Xbox bought alot of studios, Im sure a few of them will have something near launch to show.

"If there was someone who had doubts about your agenda in this thread, said doubts are certainly washed away now."

^ this sh*t should stop.
You cant have a civil conversation with anyone here, without people going "you have a agenda".

What the hell.

Last edited by JRPGfan - on 04 March 2020

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curl-6 said:

Sigh, JPRGfan has a point. :(

All the evidence so far points to 2020 being a complete wasteland for the Switch. They have literally nothing dated passed March 20th, and it's March 4th. This is Wii U 2016 levels of terrible.

The lack of a general Direct since September proves they are more than willing to starve and mistreat their loyal fanbase for no reason, I suspect they'll do the same with games and just blame it on COVID-19.

I think "starve and mistreat" are an over-exaggeration.

Here's a list of things that happened since the early September Direct:

- The huge list of September releases (i.e., Daemon x Machina, Link's Awakening remake, Dragon Quest XI S, etc.).

- Luigi's Mansion 3 in October and Pokemon Sw/Sh in November

- Nintendo Switch had a dominant Black Friday and Holiday season

- A Nindies presentation occurred a few days before the Game Awards

- A new trailer for NMH3, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 DLC, and Bravely Default II were announced at the Game Awards

- Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE Encore released in January

- Pokemon Mystery Dungeon remake was announced in January and will release this week. Pokemon Sw/Sh DLC announced in the same presentation

- The 5th figher in the Fighter's Pass was announced along with the fact that 6 new characters will be part of Vol. 2 the week after the Pokemon Direct

- Fire Emblem Three Houses DLC was announced after the Smash Bros. presentation

- Multiple games have released between January and now (i.e., Dark Crystal, Mega Man Zero/ZX Legacy Collection, DMC 3: Special Edition, Warface (ftp), Brain Age in Japan, etc.)

- Animal Crossing just had its own Direct and a huge booth in PAX East

So I find it hard to believe anyone would be "starved or mistreated" from all of this. I haven't even completed all of the games I am currently playing like Fire Emblem, Pokemon, or XC2.

I get that you want more info on release dates after Animal Crossing, but Nintendo will release more info when they are ready to do so.

Also, I would not take the COVID-19 lightly. Japan has closed multiple schools due to this. Production of hardware has slowed down due to factories in China having to stop work in relation to the virus.

Edit: Forgot to mention Metro Redux and Under Night ReBirth are also notable games that just released.

Edit again: Just keep in mind, their next fiscal year will not start until the start of April so they are pretty much finishing their fiscal year strong with Animal Crossing New Horizons.

Last edited by Kai_Mao - on 04 March 2020

SpokenTruth said:
curl-6 said:

Sigh, JPRGfan has a point. :(

All the evidence so far points to 2020 being a complete wasteland for the Switch. They have literally nothing dated passed March 20th, and it's March 4th. This is Wii U 2016 levels of terrible.

The lack of a general Direct since September proves they are more than willing to starve and mistreat their loyal fanbase for no reason, I suspect they'll do the same with games and just blame it on COVID-19.

Curl, they do this pretty much every year. We usually don't know much at all for the late summer, fall and winter line up until either a later winter ND or E3.

And I guarantee you the reason we don't have a big ND right now is because they want all focus on AC.

Absolutely no need to panic.  Remember, they have their combined home and portable software teams working on one console now.  They will have the software. They aren't starving or mistreating anybody. 

I just don't remember it even being this dead silent with the Switch before, 2018 and 2019 both had general Directs in January/February and we at least had release dates/months for major titles beyond just 15 days out. It's getting so hard to retain hope when they're behaving exactly as if they have nothing coming this year after a game that launches in 2 weeks.

This feels exactly like how 2011 and 2016 felt, where we just kept waiting for announcements that never came.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 04 March 2020

Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

curl-6 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Curl, they do this pretty much every year. We usually don't know much at all for the late summer, fall and winter line up until either a later winter ND or E3.

And I guarantee you the reason we don't have a big ND right now is because they want all focus on AC.

Absolutely no need to panic.  Remember, they have their combined home and portable software teams working on one console now.  They will have the software. They aren't starving or mistreating anybody. 

I just don't remember it even being this dead silent with the Switch before, 2018 and 2019 both had general Directs in January/February and we at least had release dates/months for major titles beyond just 15 days out. It's getting so hard to retain hope when they're behaving exactly as if they have nothing coming this year after a game that launches in 2 weeks.

Curl, they have a combined home and portable software teams plus second party studios. Do you honestly think they've all just been sitting around doing absolutely nothing? 

Patience, my friend, patience.



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SpokenTruth said:
curl-6 said:

I just don't remember it even being this dead silent with the Switch before, 2018 and 2019 both had general Directs in January/February and we at least had release dates/months for major titles beyond just 15 days out. It's getting so hard to retain hope when they're behaving exactly as if they have nothing coming this year after a game that launches in 2 weeks.

Curl, they have a combined home and portable software teams plus second party studios. Do you honestly think they've all just been sitting around doing absolutely nothing? 

Patience, my friend, patience.

I'm trying. I'm really trying. But damn, would it kill them just to give us an outline of what's coming in April-June? I don't see why they can't just drop a Direct like last year's February one, that was awesome, plus they could even use it to give AC another plug. There just doesn't seem any reason for them to hold out like this, it's not like people are gonna not buy AC if they know what games are coming for the next 6 months. It makes zero sense.



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curl-6 said:
SpokenTruth said:

Curl, they have a combined home and portable software teams plus second party studios. Do you honestly think they've all just been sitting around doing absolutely nothing? 

Patience, my friend, patience.

I'm trying. I'm really trying. But damn, would it kill them just to give us an outline of what's coming in April-June? I don't see why they can't just drop a Direct like last year's February one, that was awesome, plus they could even use it to give AC another plug. There just doesn't seem any reason for them to hold out like this, it's not like people are gonna not buy AC if they know what games are coming for the next 6 months. It makes zero sense.

What do they gain by publishing a general ND right before AC?  You can't buy anything yet.  So the value of a ND is only realized later. They will show you in due time when it makes the most sense financially to do so.

And yes, as weird as it sounds to avid fans, non-relevant information dumped out just prior to a big event has a known impact on that event for the general buying public. 



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It has been an amazing three years, and a fantastic primary console for me since launch. Being able to play console games on my TV or during my downtime at work has been a game changer for me in so many ways. Great 1st party games, along with some 3rd party collaborative releases such as Astral Chain, Mario Plus Rabbids, and Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3, have really fleshed out a robust exclusive library for those that would choose to use it as a secondary device. Lets also not forget the select WiiU games that got a second chance at life, fantastic indie support, and a number of 3rd party multiplats as well.

Highlights for me include my game of the gen in Breath of the Wild, Fire Emblem Three Houses, and playing Witcher 3 again from start to finish thanks to portability you cannot effectively find anywhere else.

With many great games on the horizon, such as BotW2, Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3, Xenoblade Remake, along with unannounced projects we have yet to uncover, the Switch still leaves gamers with a lot to look forward to.

Congrats Nintendo, the success is well deserved! While there are still a few things to improve upon, such as online, the Switch has truly changed gaming for me. As this is a time of celebration, I will leave it at that.



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Switch's first three years have been good across the board (crap first quarters in every year apart from 2017 though). 2019's been my favourite year so far games-wise, DQXI and FE:3H were absolutely fantastic, and Tangledeep was great as well.

It's currently my second favourite system ever, to overtake the DS and nab #1 it needs 2 or more of the following for me: Pikmin, another mainline FE game, another mainline DQ (a remake is acceptable for both DQ and FE), a PMD: EoS remake/new entry, Mother (1-3 remake, or a new story), Chibi-Robo!, a new mainline Pokemon (improved from SwSh, with a lot more content), a Mario RPG (don't care which flavour), a new IP that grabs me.

I think it's definitely going to get there by the time all is said and done.



SpokenTruth said:
curl-6 said:

I'm trying. I'm really trying. But damn, would it kill them just to give us an outline of what's coming in April-June? I don't see why they can't just drop a Direct like last year's February one, that was awesome, plus they could even use it to give AC another plug. There just doesn't seem any reason for them to hold out like this, it's not like people are gonna not buy AC if they know what games are coming for the next 6 months. It makes zero sense.

What do they gain by publishing a general ND right before AC?  You can't buy anything yet.  So the value of a ND is only realized later. They will show you in due time when it makes the most sense financially to do so.

And yes, as weird as it sounds to avid fans, non-relevant information dumped out just prior to a big event has a known impact on that event for the general buying public. 

I don't recall the release of major games stopping them having a roadmap before. It's not like last year they didn't announce anything for the year beyond Mario Maker 2.

Right now it really feels like they've just chucked in the towel and aren't even trying, like in 2011-2012 or 2016.

Last edited by curl-6 - on 04 March 2020

Bet with Liquidlaser: I say PS5 and Xbox Series will sell more than 56 million combined by the end of 2023.

Honestly, even with the mild impatience/annoyance going around here in these times of low gaming news. (Understandable too) I'd say the forum has been going relatively well to manage itself from exploding ^^ (Can't say the same thing about a certain Era though 😶)



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