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DarthMetalliCube said:

Soo.. safe to say that the whole social distancing thing is over now? Lol..

Thousands (and perhaps hundreds of thousands) of "protestors" and rioters are burning half of America down to the ground as I speak. Oh but at least most are wearing masks! Smh..

Honesty, I'm having serious thoughts of fleeing this stupid country to Canada or Italy as soon as I get the means. Shit's in utter chaos and all our politicians and leaders do is point the finger at the other party, using them as their boogeymen so nothing ever gets done. Sorry to get off topic and go on a tangent but I'm legit scared and depressed about the absolute state of my nation and I have to vent somewhere..

The US politics thread welcomes each and everyone who wants to shit on the US.



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vivster said:
Ka-pi96 said:

To be fair, that's just an issue with democracy full stop. It's not exclusive to the US. It's more pronounced there since there are only 2 parties capable of actually influencing things, but it's still present elsewhere too.

Oh, and as an immigrant myself, you totally should move. Immigrating is great! Although if you are able to move to the EU I'd recommend one of the Germanic countries rather than Italy, unless you have family there or something.

The US isn't a democracy, though. Actual democracies don't really have that problem. Of course the pointing fingers stuff is there but it doesn't have all of the lies, deception and things actually get done. Democracy is pretty alright if you have it and also actual politicians. The US doesn't have the former and only a small handful of the latter.

You can see that really well in the corona response. The states who fucked it up actually don't have any politicians, while the few that are giving it their best have one of the rare ones.

If the US isn't a democracy then few, if any, countries are.

And democracies aren't "alright". They're on average better than dictatorships, but only on average, it's certainly not always the case. I believe it was actually an American politican that said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except all those that came before it" and they're right. It is a bad form of government, it's just usually better than all of the others.



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Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

The US isn't a democracy, though. Actual democracies don't really have that problem. Of course the pointing fingers stuff is there but it doesn't have all of the lies, deception and things actually get done. Democracy is pretty alright if you have it and also actual politicians. The US doesn't have the former and only a small handful of the latter.

You can see that really well in the corona response. The states who fucked it up actually don't have any politicians, while the few that are giving it their best have one of the rare ones.

If the US isn't a democracy then few, if any, countries are.

And democracies aren't "alright". They're on average better than dictatorships, but only on average, it's certainly not always the case. I believe it was actually an American politican that said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except all those that came before it" and they're right. It is a bad form of government, it's just usually better than all of the others.

The US isnt a direct democracy. You guys dont follow the majority rule.
You dont follow that every vote is equal.   I would say America has a "weak" form of democracy compaired to many other places in the world.

Donald Trump only had 46% of the votes, to Hilarys 54%.
Bush only had 49% of the votes to Al Gores 51%.

These things shouldnt happend imo.
The system isnt fair, and republicans are drawing lines on maps, setting times&dates, and effecting the peoples ability to vote, in favor of themselves to beat the system. Ontop of how unfair it even is, that you can win by a minority of the votes.



JRPGfan said:
Ka-pi96 said:

If the US isn't a democracy then few, if any, countries are.

And democracies aren't "alright". They're on average better than dictatorships, but only on average, it's certainly not always the case. I believe it was actually an American politican that said "Democracy is the worst form of government, except all those that came before it" and they're right. It is a bad form of government, it's just usually better than all of the others.

The US isnt a direct democracy. You guys dont follow the majority rule.
You dont follow that every vote is equal.   I would say America has a "weak" form of democracy compaired to many other places in the world.

Donald Trump only had 46% of the votes, to Hilarys 54%.
Bush only had 49% of the votes to Al Gores 51%.

These things shouldnt happend imo.
The system isnt fair, and republicans are drawing lines on maps, setting times&dates, and effecting the peoples ability to vote, in favor of themselves to beat the system. Ontop of how unfair it even is, that you can win by a minority of the votes.

The election isn't direct either. They aren't voting for the president but for the elector who will then go on to vote for the president. Electors are just random guys appointed by the political parties, so they don't have any kind of legitimation of the people. In some states the name of the elector you're voting for isn't even on the ballot.

EDIT: Re-reading your post, I think that's what you meant by "US isn't a direct democracy".

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Either-way, the discussion of democracies and political voting isn't on-topic for the COVID thread.



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Wasn't sure if this should go here or in the Sony or Gaming forums as a thread in its own right, but I thought this thread the safest bet, so...

-America is inarguably more sharply divided along political lines today than at any time since the American Civil War.

-A nigh-inescapable illness has appeared suddenly.

-People have spent much of this year huddled away, deliberately avoiding contact with other human beings and relied on delivery services to avoid going out and social media to re-establish communication with each other.

Seriously, right down to many of us surviving on say energy drinks instead of water for at least a period of time, Death Stranding's dystopian premise has proven to be distressingly prescient this year, just months after its launch.

I declared Death Stranding the most socially pertinent game of last year shortly after playing it late last year, mostly just owing to my first bullet point above. I have not a single regret about that. Half a year on, this game has aged far better than most do, IMO. Horrifyingly well. Too well.



World update. Again almost 125K new cases in a single day.

I changed the scale on the graphs, each vertical line is a new week (Sundays to be specific)
Europe is about even for the past week, North America going down very slowly.
South America jumped ahead as largest contributor while Asia and Africa are climbing as well.

Both North America and Europe passed the 2 million reported cases total, North America ahead.
Asia passed the 1 million a few days ago, South America is close to 850K.
The world passed 6 million total on Friday, and 370K total deaths so far.

No progress, the world total is seeing 110% week over week growth and currently accelerating.

Different strategies

Brazil passed the USA and is currently the largest contributor to reported cases in the world.
Canada is finally going down, USA a bit less while the rest is all growing.

Week over week changes

Canada drops to 82% week over week decline, the USA climbs a bit to 92% week over week decline.
Brazil is at 132% week over week growth, followed by India with 122% week over week growth.
Iran is back to the break even point while Japan is still declining week over week.

Still a long way to go.



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You should probably add Mexico to your 3-day-curves.
My guess is Mexico will spill over to US numbers at some point, there's just no way that can be avoided.
Maybe Orangehead's wall wouldn't be that bad now. Inconceivable that he is right one time with a single argument (even for the wrong reasons).



These riots...


Gotta spread that Coronavirus I guess.

A week or two from now, Im guessing theres a massive rise in Covid19 cases in Canada + US.
A week or two after that, the deaths follow.

Rioting in the middle of a pandemic is something else.

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