Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

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JRPGfan said:

Conina said:

You mean real world consequences of a fucked up social/welfare system.

With a functioning social/welfare system, there wouldn't be any reason why these families wouldn't have enough money for food, especially in a rich country like the USA

I have no idea what those same numbers would be like in denmark.
Supposedly in denmark we used around ~11% of a families budget on food (on avg, with the less well off?), with a family of 4 (2 parents, 2 kids).
And its around 1000 kr/month for food pr person (~150$ USD).

Here we also have rich and poor, but our poorest usually arnt starveing (even if they have a tight budget).
Atleast this is what I believe to be true, but I dont actually know.

Canada still has food insecurity problems as well
https://proof.utoronto.ca/food-insecurity/

Out of total 37 million people. It's likely worse now here as well since many kids relied on school lunches and food banks got shut down and got far fewer donations.

It's also not equal here, indiginous and black people report over 28% are dealing with food insecurity while only 11% of those self identifying as white.
It's especially bad in the North, 78.7% of the children in Nunavut live in food-insecure households
65% of those dealing with food insecurity have regular income from a job but the wages are too low.

Better assistance is probably cheaper in the long run for Canada since health care is free here:


The best way to fix it is to raise the minimum wage and social assistance

It would pay itself back in reduced health care costs.


More recent data

https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/canada-s-food-insecurity-problem-is-about-to-get-worse-due-to-covid-19-experts-say-1.5006252

According to a survey done in May by Statistics Canada, almost one in seven (14.6 percent) Canadians indicated that they lived in a household where food insecurity was a problem. This number is up from 10.5 percent just two years ago.



Here's some info on Denmark

https://www.eurodiaconia.org/2019/05/kirkens-korshaer-food-insecurity-on-the-rise-in-denmark/
https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2019-01/uoc-pof011019.php
"The precise extent of food insecurity in Denmark should be explored further. But, from our study and data from the UN Food and Agriculture Organization, we can say that at least 4-5 % of Danish households experience insecure access to food, the equivalent of approximately 100,000 households.Jan 10, 2019

To put it in perspective, severe food insecurity above means going up to a few days without food. Moderate means not getting adequate nutrition while marginally means worrying about being able to get enough food.

Compared to the rest of the world North America and Europe are at less than 2.5% for serious undernourishment with Easter Africa over 30%.
http://www.fao.org/state-of-food-security-nutrition