I don't know what people in the USA are worried about in the words of our dear leader Trump

"When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."

I know this contradicts what the experts say, but remember experts can't be trusted, the only people we can be trusted are youtube celebs, the current sitting president and the like

There are probably also many more cases in the world in countries that aren't testing as much. 3 new cases in San Francisco, including a couple that had recently traveled to Egypt, yet only 2 cases in Egypt. What are the odds...

My youngest has been coughing for over a week from before anything showed up in Canada, but you never know. And the policy here is, no fever, send to school. (Which is how the flu spreads so easily through schools). I tell them to wash their hands often, don't share food/drinks/candy etc. But they are kids, playing together, sitting close together all day. Meanwhile people living here commute daily to Toronto where it could have been spreading already.
https://toronto.citynews.ca/2020/03/01/4-new-cases-of-coronavirus-confirmed-in-ontario/
Another case from someone having traveled to Egypt, and some imported from Iran.
For now, risk still low, all cases linked to foreign travel, yet you can't be sure until 2 or 3 weeks later if those have not spread the virus before detecting it.

Now I hear it can maybe survive up to 15 hours outside the body while surgical masks are not effective to stop it. However the chance of catching it is still relatively low with a growth factor of 1.3. Still, yesterday had 1700 new cases outside China, in a week that's over 10K new cases daily, 2 weeks 66k daily new cases, in 3 weeks over 400k new cases daily.

Luckily for the US, according to Trump, the Coronavirus is very much under control, and he has announced that cases have gone down from 12 to 88. It's practically wiped out now. By April, cases might have dropped in numbers to 10,000, and it will disappear by October having no more than a few million cases remaining.

Not to mention he confirmed his rallies are 100% safe from the Coronavirus, so go for it, Republican folks.

OT - yeah, this thing has been flying under the radar all over the West Coast for weeks now, on all likelihood. And it potentially has assymptomatic / incumbating cases everywhere in the country.

Hearing reports that the death rate may only be 0.2-0.4%, so possibly only 2-4x as deadly as the flu. Had a feeling that the initial stats may have been skewed.

Still nothing concrete yet

Around 4:20, according to SK data/models death rate probably isnt 2%

Remember how Black Man Good handled the Swine flu pandemic in 2009? Zero travel restrictions were imposed to slow or stop the spread of the virus. 59 million got infected and 12000 died in the US. It took Black Man Good 6 months to declare a national emergency after millions were infected and 1000 had already died and still no travel restrictions!

Since the H1N1 flu pandemic began in April, millions of people in the United States have been infected, at least 20,000 have been hospitalized and more than 1,000 have died, said Dr. Thomas Frieden, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2010-mar-19-la-sci-swine-flu20-2010mar20-story.html

https://edition.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/10/24/h1n1.obama/index.html

Orange Man Bad did impose travel restrictions and quarantines from China immediately (and more countries followed) to slow the spread of the virus. Very different approach and we will see how it pans out compared to Europe for example. Still the "high quality" NYT wants to call it the Trumpvirus but Swine flu was never called Obamavirus.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Definitely, 5 new deaths reported today in the USA. Best medical system (so they claim) in the world yet people can't afford to go to the doctor with what looks like the flu initially. Nobody died yet in Germany and only 2 serious cases out of 165 detected. The number for the US is very much under reported / undetected.

CNBC reporting the death rate may only be 0.2%. Hmm yeah sure, they must know better than the CDC and WHO

China has 80k cases and already around 2900 deaths. Even if nobody would die anymore they would have a death rate of more than 3%. Italy has 50+deaths with 2k cases which is also already a rate of 2.5% even if nobody else of the infected would die.

Some countries may have a lower death rate but where in the world did they get  0.2% from? Maybe if they learn better how to handle it but right now it's much above that.

Sure, we will have undetected cases as well but I would be surprised if the death rate is below 1%

The US seriously botching the response to this. Not as bad as Iran, but still... even Japan who is reluctant to test mild or unrelated cases is doing better.

As for the 0.2%, no idea. The closest I can imagine is something like considering the Diamond Princess a case of complete viral penetrance and then extrapolating from 7 deaths among over 4,000 "exposed" persons, or perhaps those estimates that Iran had up to 55,000 undiagnosed cases based on how often it had been transmitted to other countries and party officials with just a few cases.

A lot of people were repatriated from the Diamond Princess and died back home or are still seriously ill :/

I figured the serious/critical rate was about 5% based on the Diamond Princess, which is still at 18% based on available total stats. Does it really matter though, we hardly have enough beds to get through a regular flu season. Putting 5% of the population in hospitals is going to be a problem. It needs to be slowed down.