"There's no way Sweden will reach 150k or 50k death, we are at 1.5k now and our daily death are stable even going down slightly. I don't know where you got that number from."

14,385 confirmed Cases tested positive for covid 19 in sweden.

2090 cases closed.
550 recovered.
1540 deaths. 

So far, out of the 14,000+ people in sweden tested positive for this virus, only 550 have recovered.
Its too soon so really say anything about how many this will end up killing yet.

However, Im more likely to believe in Dr Campbell.

Dr John Campbell. (a UK virologist) who is very "glass half full" type (optimistic), is saying around ~0.5-0,8%.
Based on data from various countries.

Basically 5 to 8 times more than your "Prof. John Giesecke".


Useing 0.8% :
10,3million swedes x 50% infected x 0.8% (0.008) = ~41,200 deaths in sweden (before 50% infection rate reached)

^ thats a very optimistic view imo.
Also this doesnt say anything about all those people that will have to live with bad lunges, damaged kidneys, livers after they recover.

Also we dont know if you actually ever become immune, or if you do how long it lasts.
Maybe "immunity" only lasts a few months, and then next time (a year lateron) covid19 comes back, it starts infecting sweden again anyways.

It might all be pointless deaths.

Here in the Netherlands they did a crude antibodies test by testing blood plasma donated by a number of people. It's not really conclusive, but they found that now about 3% of the people have generated antibodies which means about 3% of the population has had some kind of exposure to the virus. Out of a population of 17.5M that means that after all this time only 0.5M have some kind of defence against the virus. It's also the question in what capacity their antibodies will be effective. In any case, this is long ways from establishing group immunity, the downside of lockdowns. Maybe the Swedish approach isn't so bad.

Yes I just saw that talked about in a video of Dr John Campbell.

3% of population = 519k.

 ~3700 deaths  / 519k  x 100% = ~0,71%


^ theres a big margin of error though, depending on how accurate you guys counted your deaths.
If theres like another 1500 deaths you guys have yet to count (in say nurseing homes or such), it'll change things alot.

However I suspect its higher.
Netherlands has reported ~250 recovered and ~3700 deaths.
You guys have too many people still in hospital, that its too early to say or accurately claim to know "real" death rate of this virus.

Right now, its looking like its ~0.71%

However you need to factor in, dieing takes time.
Deaths always lag, even when looking at this type of math.

Look at the mortality rate in closed cases in Norway, Netherlands and Ireland for example. Fuck THOSE odds. 

Or don't. It's basically useless to look at those stats at the moment.

Italy is now 41 days past the time lock down started.
China was back at their daily reported cases from when lock down started in 27 days.
Italy had an avg of 1422 reported cases a day at lock down, they currently still have 3344 reported cases a day, down from a peak of 6557. It's taking forever :/

Remember when Trump said he was buying for 29m+ dozes of Hydroxychloroquine? He basically claimed it was a miracle cure.

Turns out, that it barely has a effect, and that it comes with near unbarable side effects.
In brazil a study group of it, was put on hold after alot of them started haveing heart issues (irregular heart rythems) and 11 patience died (likely because of it).

Because it was claimed as the "wonder drug" against coronavirus early on, some famous people (that got sick) apparently tried the treatment too.
Theres stories of bad side effects, to the point where they stopped useing it again.

" “What do you have to lose? Take it,” the president said on Saturday as he boasted that the US had amassed 29m doses of the drug."
“But we don’t have time to go and say, ‘Gee, let’s take a couple of years and test it out, and let’s go and test with the test tubes and the laboratories.’”

^ Trump.

Doesnt look like Hydroxychloroquine, is turning out to be the way to treat this.

Looks like Dr Anthony Fauci was right to wait, before declairing it as the wonder drug.

The question is,.... what the hell is America going to do with 29million dozes of a anti-malaria drug, that doesnt appear to work well against Covid19 ?
Donate it to WHO? give it to Africa to fight malaria?

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Italy at one point was seeing 6500+ daily cases.
Now its down to ~3000, and seems to be shrinking a little each day up to this point.

Its heading in the right direction.
I think Spain is worse off, at their peak they were seeing almost 9000 new cases daily, and its slow down, seems worse than Italys rate.

The UK is bad too, because they were going for "soft herd immunity" route early on, they purposefully let it spread (at reduced rate) like in sweden.
This means they were a week or two behinde other european countries in trying to stop spread. So its still growing there.

In the USA, things seem to have plateaued around 30k or so each day.
(while spread rates drop in 1 place, they rise in another)

Also we shouldnt forget that the 1st world countries are probably gonna have far less deaths, than the 3rd world countries.
This is bad here, but its gonna be alot worse those places.

It's sad and it's becoming obvious even from the most bias what we need from our leaders in this crysis  

Today we had no new coronavirus cases across three states out of 8.
We have managed to successfully prevent any community transmission so far... Which is damn impressive.

Pretty much just reaffirms the idea that Trump is an idiot.

When Sweden thinks they have reached "herd immunity" in May, it will be interesting to see what happens when Swedes try to cross the border in the next weeks. After all, if a Swede shows up at an airport/seaport/border, it is pretty sure s/he is infected..

If Covid-19 is similar to other coronaviruses immunity should last about 2-3 years. Here is to hoping.