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jason1637 on 18 March 2020
Ryuu96 said:
The US site still says Holiday 2020, I'm wondering if someone can easily edit that information? Just seems so random, I hope Microsoft casually drops the release date along with revealing Series S.

Maybe they're gonna announce it during their GDC show and someone pulled the plug.



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Barozi on 18 March 2020
trunkswd said:
Barozi said:

Seriously doubt it. Unless PS5 is running games at lower resolution.

Yeah I know, I was just saying that people won't care about a few extra second per loading screen, but a lot more than people will take notice. Right now there are so many games that take forever to load on the current consoles. RDR2 I swear is 5 minutes.

I've been taking a look at some loading comparisons.

RDR2 Xbox One X: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRpQui0hpaU

reduced loading time by almost 50% even though it's just a ~500MB/s SSD that was connected via USB.

various games on PC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AYextvB9l4

The leftmost SSD has a reading speed of 3500 MB/s and the second only 550 MB/s. Barely a difference.



sales2099 on 18 March 2020

Xbox has the power! Buying one knowing i ain’t settling for anything less.

I mean when you built like a PC tower to optimally dissipate heat out the top, you know the console be generating insane power.



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 18 March 2020
derpysquirtle64 said:
So, MS won spec-wise it seems. Now they need to match PS5 price and that will be a really good start for next gen. Also, it seems that Sony couldn't even handle PS4 BC which adds some points to Series X.

Don’t you mean PS1-ps3 BC? I think they said it’s ps4 BC but either way Series X being compatible with Xbox and Xbox 360 is a nice bonus. 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

sales2099 on 18 March 2020
shikamaru317 said:
sales2099 said:

Don’t you mean PS1-ps3 BC? I think they said it’s ps4 BC but either way Series X being compatible with Xbox and Xbox 360 is a nice bonus. 

I think he means that Sony announced that only 100 PS4 games will be available through BC when PS5 releases. Sony will be adding more over time, like MS had to do with Xbox 360 and OG Xbox games throughout this generation. By comparison, MS has been working on making full Xbox One BC on Xbox Series X possible, so almost every Xbox One game, plus any Xbox 360 and OG Xbox games that were already BC on Xbox One, are supposed to be playable on Xbox Series X day one.

Oh....that’s even less impressive. Sony literally 5 years behind MS in the BC department 



Xbox: Best hardware, Game Pass best value, best BC, more 1st party genres and multiplayer titles. 

 

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derpysquirtle64 on 18 March 2020
shikamaru317 said:
sales2099 said:

Don’t you mean PS1-ps3 BC? I think they said it’s ps4 BC but either way Series X being compatible with Xbox and Xbox 360 is a nice bonus. 

I think he means that Sony announced that only 100 PS4 games will be available through BC when PS5 releases. Sony will be adding more over time, like MS had to do with Xbox 360 and OG Xbox games throughout this generation. By comparison, MS has been working on making full Xbox One BC on Xbox Series X possible, so almost every Xbox One game, plus any Xbox 360 and OG Xbox games that were already BC on Xbox One, are supposed to be playable on Xbox Series X day one.

I think PS5 should handle most of the PS4 games out of the box at launch, but the messaging sucked as well as Sony not being sure that they can deliver full BC.If some games will require patches to even be able to run on PS5 then it's gonna be a disaster.



 

Conina on 18 March 2020
derpysquirtle64 said:
shikamaru317 said:

Well, there is no way that was a mistake date posting. Seems like MS just committed to a Thanksgiving release for Series X. Kind of strange to release a console during the already crazy Black Friday week though.

Xbox 360 and Xbox One both launched November 22. It's thanksgiving week. So, I think it is easy to bet that Series X launches November 22 as well.

Okay, I bet against the 22th November.

How much shall we bet?

P.S.: I'm pretty confident they won't launch their console on a Sunday.

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jason1637 on 18 March 2020

Watching MS GDC for Xbox and xcloud. Hopefully we get something meaningful.



Imaginedvl on 18 March 2020
trunkswd said:
I see the PS5 and Xbox Series X both launching at the same price with the specs being so similar. Microsoft has been willing to lose more money per console sold in previous generation than Sony was.

Well, the GPU is more powerful and the SSD Bigger (1TB vs 875GO I think) but he Play Station Five is bringing some other custom stuff, including that "target" SSD speed. Add to that the cost of dev./research (which we do not know for both).


I'm not so convinced that the price will be different to be honest or that the Xbox One Series X is actually costing more to produce (including R&D cost).



Imaginedvl on 18 March 2020

So, it is me or both consoles have the same architecture basically.
- Xbox One series X having more raw power and faster memory speed
- Play Station Five having an higher target IO speed?

Overall, this is looking quite good for that Xbox baby :)

Sony is still getting my money too for that next Horizon Zero Dawn tho ;)

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