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...but as with the case of Halo being worked on harder because of the consumer speaking out, the large green optimized for Series X logo being moved to the back of the case because of the consumer speaking out, perhaps any shenanigans with upping costs to play online will also be countered by the consumer.



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I have no problems with Gamepass MP if, and only if, they start offering multi-month Gamepass discounts. Gold always had multi-month discounts; whereas a monthly Gold sub would cost you $10 a month or $120 a year, a 12 month card would cost you $60. Currently 12 month Gamepass cards cost $120, the same price as 12 individual months of Gamepass. If they can get the pricing on the the 3 month and 12 month cards/codes for Gamepass down to $25 for 3 months and $60 for 12 months of Gamepass, nobody is going to mind Gamepass multiplayer, afterall Gamepass is a hell of a lot better than Games With Gold. Even $80 for $12 months of Gamepass would be acceptable to most people. $120 for 12 months of Gamepass just to be able to play multiplayer games would drive so many people away though, myself possibly among them.

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DroidKnight said:

...but as with the case of Halo being worked on harder because of the consumer speaking out, the large green optimized for Series X logo being moved to the back of the case because of the consumer speaking out, perhaps any shenanigans with upping costs to play online will also be countered by the consumer.

Someone needs to ask Phil why console gamers still pay for online, because it goes against his vision for a fair ecosystem. GWG been shit for a long ass time, I’m sure no one would miss it. #TeamFreeMP



Is there really buzz that SFVI is PS5 exclusive? I would have thought Capcom would learn their lesson from SFV.



LudicrousSpeed said:
Is there really buzz that SFVI is PS5 exclusive? I would have thought Capcom would learn their lesson from SFV.

Yep, some of the insiders teased it. You would think that Street Fighter 5 selling like 3m copies less than Street Fighter 4 sold across all platforms would have been enough to convince them that going PS console exclusive again would be a mistake, but I guess not. Sony must be offering alot. 



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It sounds like Sony is gonna wipe the floor with MS with all these moneyhats and most of MS big hitters wont come out til 2022/2023.



MS adding Gold to gamepass doesn't sound that bad tbh. If it stays $10 you're getting what you were getting with gold but with like 300 extra games now and 1st party games at launch.



jason1637 said:
It sounds like Sony is gonna wipe the floor with MS with all these moneyhats and most of MS big hitters wont come out til 2022/2023.

Yep. That is why Phil needs to get some moneyhats of his own for 2021, now, before it is too late. Most of their big 1st party games like Fable, Avowed, Gears 6, Hellblade 2, whatever The Initiative is making, whatever inXile is making, State of Decay 3, and Forza Motorsport reboot sound like they won't be releasing until at least 2022 or 2023, with inXile possibly not until 2024 or 2025. AAA Xbox exclusive lineup for 2021 right now is looking like just Forza Horizon 5 probably. They either need to delay Halo into 2021, moneyhat a 3rd party AAA or two for 2021, or both, or else Sony is going to have a huge advantage in 2021 with AAA's like Horizon: Forbidden West, Ratchet & Clank Rift Apart, Demon's Souls remake, Ghostwire Tokyo, and FF16 all possibly releasing in 2021 as timed or full PS5 exclusives. 

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WoodenPints said:
shikamaru317 said:

I don't hope the WB deal falls through, Microsoft is our only hope of WB Interactive not being sold to one of the other 4 shitty publishers who are reportedly interested; EA, Activision, Take-Two, and Tencent. All 4 of them are some of the worst culprits in the gaming industry when it comes to microtransactions, especially randomized microtransactions. EA, Acti, and Take-Two also have long histories of closing owned studios if they start to underperform even a little bit. Then you have Tencent who is just shitty in so many other ways, from their close ties to the Chinese Communist Party (with accusations of them using the DRM in their games to gather info about people to give to the CCP), to the fact that they have forced many of the studios they have already acquired to make shitty cash-in spinoff games. 

I just don't see the merit in throwing out 2-4B or whatever it is now on studios that purely rely on licenced IP minus Neverealm that will all be likely on a Multiplatform schedule for the next year or 2 at least and it wouldn't surprise me if the bigger licenced IP have a multiplatform clause on them if Microsoft close th deal anyway.

As far as I'm concerned Microsoft should be looking at AA studios they can nature into top quality studios that hardly cost a thing to acquire just look at Deck 13 purchased for $7m as a AA studio with potential if they get funding and the ability to grow, I'd love to see a dozen of these scale purchases over a super expensive publisher deal.

Thank you.

I'd say the same for buying timed exclusivity of existing franchises. Either pay this money to aquire developers or buy the whole franchise, like with Ori. Ending up with Mass Effect or Titanfall wouldn't help on the long run. If Microsoft were to get the developers behind them before EA or at least acquired the rights for those franchises  it would've been a totally different story by now.



iceland said:
DroidKnight said:

...but as with the case of Halo being worked on harder because of the consumer speaking out, the large green optimized for Series X logo being moved to the back of the case because of the consumer speaking out, perhaps any shenanigans with upping costs to play online will also be countered by the consumer.

Someone needs to ask Phil why console gamers still pay for online, because it goes against his vision for a fair ecosystem. GWG been shit for a long ass time, I’m sure no one would miss it. #TeamFreeMP

After the Xbox showcase i don't think he actually has this vision.

shikamaru317 said:
LudicrousSpeed said:
Is there really buzz that SFVI is PS5 exclusive? I would have thought Capcom would learn their lesson from SFV.

Yep, some of the insiders teased it. You would think that Street Fighter 5 selling like 3m copies less than Street Fighter 4 sold across all platforms would have been enough to convince them that going PS console exclusive again would be a mistake, but I guess not. Sony must be offering alot. 

Depends what their profit numbers were. Sony's money and DLC could've made them more than what SF4 did.

jason1637 said:
It sounds like Sony is gonna wipe the floor with MS with all these moneyhats and most of MS big hitters wont come out til 2022/2023.

MS announced 22 console launch exclusives just a couple of weeks ago. They're moneyhatting as well.

The difference is that they are also paying a lot of money to get 3rd party games day 1 on GamePass. 

And alot of ppl here want MS to get WB games, so that's a few more multiplatform studios going exclusive.