Isn't this already a thread or is this from a different interview?

I mentioned in another thread. Majority of gamers buying into a console ecosystem want games. They or majority arent ready for VR units and some simply cannot use them.

Steam is forcing me in buying VR for one of my all time gaming franchises. I know ill have a great time with it but not ideal when i just want to play games.

Theres currently 3 VR headsets in the top50 on amazon, this black friday.
While theres no Xbox in the top50 list.

Theres a growing demand for it (VR), and its only gonna get better as the technology advances.

On reflection, I think that Sony's plan not to update the PSVR is actually pretty clever. The sorts of people who will be early adopters of the PS5 are likely to have already bought a PSVR for their PS4, so the percentage of VR users on PS5 will very high at launch...

...I am surprised that Microsoft don't just support plugging in a third party VR system. In fact I imagine that they'll suddenly support that when the time comes.

Just add Oculus support... Then they can create VR games that are "Play Anywhere" on Scarlett and PC. It should be a no brainer. They don't even have to make their own games, after all if VR isn't supported why should they care? Adding support for Oculus isn't a big investment.

That was the idea, with the Xbox One X.
It was supposed to have Oculus support. They had a partnership and everything, there was PR and marketing, even Ads...

Then there was some scandal or such with oculus?
And shortly after you never heard of it again..... a year or so after, MS admitted they dropped the VR support idea.

We have no idea, if it was because they couldnt get it working right, was too much effort not enough returns, or the PR thingy.

MS even afterwards came out and said, the scarlet would have VR support (supposedly oculus).
Now we hear phil spencer saying "we like communal gameing, we dont like VR".

If MS actually came out again, and said "we re now working with Oculus to bring VR to Xbox Two (scarlet)", would you trust them to actually do it?

I feel like if a company comes out and promises something 3 times or more, and fails to deliver on said promises, then... yeah.
At some point your like, "I'll believe it when I see it".

The footage was "faked" to look much better than it actually was for the user (this was proven).
So it was basically a Marketing PR stunt.

Also those Holo lense where like 15,000$.... and a VR version of minecraft would probably give a better experiance with a 400$ headset.

Holo lense wasnt ever ment for gameing imo.
They wanted to sell them to hospitals and the like.

The irony is, that VR headsets are actually in use at some hospitals.
Not for the doctors operations ect, but for the patents that are stuck in a bed.
Haveing a cheap (compairably) vr headset, that allows a person stuck in a sick bed, to not feel that way, can be a huge QoL improvement for a sick person.
Same with people with phantom limb pains ect, theres usecases for it.

They needed good PR about something?
And they had been designing this thing for ages and wanted some way to show it off, even if that wasnt what it was buildt for?

The sales target would still be professionals and hospitals, even if it was at a gaming conference.
Why was it there? to make it easier to sell to those professionals + hospitals.

If it gave xbox users, false hope that they could get that instead of VR even better.
As they had backtracked on VR at that point (saying it would no longer be comeing to xbox one x).

So it fixed 2 issues for them.

I remember xbox users going "who cares about VR, we re getting AR soon baby!" "AR is the future, VR is not going anywhere" ect.
it fooled the xbox user base (since then xbox users arnt bitching about getting VR anymore, even if it was promised to them).

Phil seems to get away with breaking alot of promises tbh, without it seemingly hurting his popularity amoung xbox fans.

VR gaming cannot go mainstream by design and it doesn't need to. I mean xbox 1 never went mainstream, yet here we are.

"It would be really nice if all the developers were to open up support for cross platform VR headsets.  Like use a Valve Index, Rift on PS5 or use PSVR2 on PC. "

You would have to program the games for multiple VR headsets then, because some of them have differnt funktions or work differntly than others.
Overall you would put more stress/workload on the developers (say if they only made PSVR game) and you have certain vr headsets running at the lowest common demoninator then.

But I get your point, it would be nice if people that already had a occulus rift could just hook it up to a PS4, and just run it like a PSVR.

As a platform holder, I dont see much upside for sony to do this though.

*edit:

I went and searched for a few videos of Halo Lense 2.
The graphics are kinda horrible at that stage,.....
If you think PSVR has low resolutions and renders with aliasing, its much worse on holo Lense 2 (going by videos).

Its neat though, the idea of storeing a virtual hologram in the real world, and being able to interact with it.
I still think most of its sales, will come from people just trying it for the "novelty" of it, in practical use, its probably gonna remain behinde VR (for gameing) forever.