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Lonely_Dolphin said:
Cobretti2 said:
There are only 5 options in life

1. Working to support yourself. Whether it is 9-5 job, a brilliant app, or game streaming or whatever else, you still need to work a bit to get that to benefit you.
2, Find a partner willing to support you being a bump at home.
3. Being on welfare (hopefully in a country that provides housing, if not then living on the street).
4. Living in jail / mental institution (same benefits as welfare but no freedom, but no need to worry what you will eat. may get killed or raped in prison though)
5. Death

Welp, guess death it is!

KLAMarine said:
Work to provide for your family. It gets me to wake up every morning.

Don't have one, obviously.

"Don't have one? Get one!" -Woody from Toy Story



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Have you ever had a job, or have you just decided working sucks without ever giving it a shot?

Certainly, some jobs are very stressful, and may be a net negative to someone in your mental state. But, many low stress, worthwhile jobs exist that can be enjoyable, or at least not unpleasant, and working often solves a lot of these issues you're dealing with. It gives you some purpose, some sense of accomplishment, some money, etc. So, you should at least try to work a few jobs before you decide you're not cut out for it.

With that said, you pretty clearly sound like you're dealing with depression. So, just getting yourself together to get a job in the first place can be difficult. There are no easy solutions to that part of the problem, especially if you don't have supportive friends of family around. But, at the end of the day, you're a grown man, so you have to put one foot in front of the other, get a job (even if it seems stupid, any job starts the ball rolling in the right direction), and handle your business.

I was in a spot similar to yours at one point. I had a childhood girlfriend that basically said "I like you, but you're too much of a loser for me. Do something for yourself." That finally got me up off my ass. I got my first real job (I had a couple that I quit within days or weeks previously), got some money in my pocket, got a car, got my mental state in order, and it snowballed from there. A few years later I started a business. The only difficult part of that was taking the first step to go get a job. Once I did that, momentum took over.

It may not happen exactly the same way for you. But, there is literally zero chance of things getting worse if you muster up the will power to take the first step - go get a job.



Suicide hotline: 1-800-273-8255

That's for USA. I'm sure wherever you live there is someone you can talk to.

But to answer the question, I don't think making an app or filming yourself are good suggestions, as you said yourself that you don't know how to begin making an app, and you don't seem like you would have the qualities or personality to strike it big on a streaming platform. My suggestion is to just find a simple, minimum wage job and to go to work everyday. Again, the laws are different depending on your country, but if you work full-time and don't make much money, you will probably be eligible for assistance.

Now for a reality check (hope this helps):

Man, what if your parents did pass away today? You would be fucked. It's time to start getting shit sorted out instead of feeling bad for yourself. If you think that by acting so depressing other people are going to give you handouts, you are wasting your time. Don't you feel bad about having to burden your parents all these years, and judging by your attitude, I don't imagine you are a joy to be around.

Sorry if this is harsh, but this isn't the first time you've started this discussion, and I would've hoped to see improvement by now, but damn, you are acting the same way you did before. What's your goal with this? It seems like you get some sort of twisted satisfaction out of being a low-life. You don't sugar-coat anything you say, and if anything, you seem to trying to make yourself look hopeless.

Just my thoughts.



d21lewis said:

"Don't have one? Get one!" -Woody from Toy Story

lol if it were that easy I would.

VAMatt said:
Have you ever had a job, or have you just decided working sucks without ever giving it a shot?

Certainly, some jobs are very stressful, and may be a net negative to someone in your mental state. But, many low stress, worthwhile jobs exist that can be enjoyable, or at least not unpleasant, and working often solves a lot of these issues you're dealing with. It gives you some purpose, some sense of accomplishment, some money, etc. So, you should at least try to work a few jobs before you decide you're not cut out for it.

With that said, you pretty clearly sound like you're dealing with depression. So, just getting yourself together to get a job in the first place can be difficult. There are no easy solutions to that part of the problem, especially if you don't have supportive friends of family around. But, at the end of the day, you're a grown man, so you have to put one foot in front of the other, get a job (even if it seems stupid, any job starts the ball rolling in the right direction), and handle your business.

I was in a spot similar to yours at one point. I had a childhood girlfriend that basically said "I like you, but you're too much of a loser for me. Do something for yourself." That finally got me up off my ass. I got my first real job (I had a couple that I quit within days or weeks previously), got some money in my pocket, got a car, got my mental state in order, and it snowballed from there. A few years later I started a business. The only difficult part of that was taking the first step to go get a job. Once I did that, momentum took over.

It may not happen exactly the same way for you. But, there is literally zero chance of things getting worse if you muster up the will power to take the first step - go get a job.

I've had two, both of which I only got due to networking that I no longer have, and both of which I left on bad terms due to social issues. I didn't feel any purpose or a sense of pride and accomplishment (lol) doing them, but they did give money yes.

My body is grown but my mind is that of a child, no responsibility and no independence. It's unlikely I could get another job given my work history, my lack of marketable skills, my lack of work ethic, and how long it's been since I last worked. Even if I did I doubt I would maintain it given I lost two already and nothing has changed to prevent another repeat. It's great that you got out of a similar rut, but they key difference is you had someone tangible you cared about motivating you.

Actually things could get worse, more failures will only add more anger and frustration to the vast pool of it I already have inside. I'd like to think I'm a pretty calm rational person and wouldn't do anything crazy but it's easy to say that now. I do get the point, nothing better will happen either, but eh I'm just too lazy to do anything.



Lonely_Dolphin said:

I do get the point, nothing better will happen either, but eh I'm just too lazy to do anything.

That's a cop out.  Stop making excuses and do something for yourself.  In the time you've spent in this thread, you could have found a job in a local grocery store doing worthwhile work, making some money, and giving yourself some structure and responsibility.  



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Lonely_Dolphin said:
KLAMarine said:
Work to provide for your family. It gets me to wake up every morning.

Don't have one, obviously.

Then chillax. Work part time so you can eat.



RaptorChrist said:
Suicide hotline: 1-800-273-8255

That's for USA. I'm sure wherever you live there is someone you can talk to.

But to answer the question, I don't think making an app or filming yourself are good suggestions, as you said yourself that you don't know how to begin making an app, and you don't seem like you would have the qualities or personality to strike it big on a streaming platform. My suggestion is to just find a simple, minimum wage job and to go to work everyday. Again, the laws are different depending on your country, but if you work full-time and don't make much money, you will probably be eligible for assistance.

Now for a reality check (hope this helps):

Man, what if your parents did pass away today? You would be fucked. It's time to start getting shit sorted out instead of feeling bad for yourself. If you think that by acting so depressing other people are going to give you handouts, you are wasting your time. Don't you feel bad about having to burden your parents all these years, and judging by your attitude, I don't imagine you are a joy to be around.

Sorry if this is harsh, but this isn't the first time you've started this discussion, and I would've hoped to see improvement by now, but damn, you are acting the same way you did before. What's your goal with this? It seems like you get some sort of twisted satisfaction out of being a low-life. You don't sugar-coat anything you say, and if anything, you seem to trying to make yourself look hopeless.

Just my thoughts.

If I wanted to suicide I wouldn't be calling a number that would try to stop me. :L

Your answer to my question doesn't actually answer it, you're just saying to do the one option, get a job.

I'm well aware of reality as I've said in the first post, that just doesn't motivate me though. Wont lie, handouts would be nice, but I'm not expecting them. My goal was to see if there was an answer to my question. I'm fine talking about myself if that's what people want to focus on instead, and yes it is satisfying, outside of the internet I don't talk to anyone.



Cobretti2 said:
There are only 5 options in life

1. Working to support yourself. Whether it is 9-5 job, a brilliant app, or game streaming or whatever else, you still need to work a bit to get that to benefit you.
2, Find a partner willing to support you being a bump at home.
3. Being on welfare (hopefully in a country that provides housing, if not then living on the street).
4. Living in jail / mental institution (same benefits as welfare but no freedom, but no need to worry what you will eat. may get killed or raped in prison though)
5. Death

Any advice on getting into jail?



- "If you have the heart of a true winner, you can always get more pissed off than some other asshole."

Lonely_Dolphin said:
d21lewis said:

"Don't have one? Get one!" -Woody from Toy Story

lol if it were that easy I would.

VAMatt said:
Have you ever had a job, or have you just decided working sucks without ever giving it a shot?

Certainly, some jobs are very stressful, and may be a net negative to someone in your mental state. But, many low stress, worthwhile jobs exist that can be enjoyable, or at least not unpleasant, and working often solves a lot of these issues you're dealing with. It gives you some purpose, some sense of accomplishment, some money, etc. So, you should at least try to work a few jobs before you decide you're not cut out for it.

With that said, you pretty clearly sound like you're dealing with depression. So, just getting yourself together to get a job in the first place can be difficult. There are no easy solutions to that part of the problem, especially if you don't have supportive friends of family around. But, at the end of the day, you're a grown man, so you have to put one foot in front of the other, get a job (even if it seems stupid, any job starts the ball rolling in the right direction), and handle your business.

I was in a spot similar to yours at one point. I had a childhood girlfriend that basically said "I like you, but you're too much of a loser for me. Do something for yourself." That finally got me up off my ass. I got my first real job (I had a couple that I quit within days or weeks previously), got some money in my pocket, got a car, got my mental state in order, and it snowballed from there. A few years later I started a business. The only difficult part of that was taking the first step to go get a job. Once I did that, momentum took over.

It may not happen exactly the same way for you. But, there is literally zero chance of things getting worse if you muster up the will power to take the first step - go get a job.

I've had two, both of which I only got due to networking that I no longer have, and both of which I left on bad terms due to social issues. I didn't feel any purpose or a sense of pride and accomplishment (lol) doing them, but they did give money yes.

My body is grown but my mind is that of a child, no responsibility and no independence. It's unlikely I could get another job given my work history, my lack of marketable skills, my lack of work ethic, and how long it's been since I last worked. Even if I did I doubt I would maintain it given I lost two already and nothing has changed to prevent another repeat. It's great that you got out of a similar rut, but they key difference is you had someone tangible you cared about motivating you.

Actually things could get worse, more failures will only add more anger and frustration to the vast pool of it I already have inside. I'd like to think I'm a pretty calm rational person and wouldn't do anything crazy but it's easy to say that now. I do get the point, nothing better will happen either, but eh I'm just too lazy to do anything.

I'm 43 and I still have the mind of a child! I was pretty quiet, lonely,  and lacked ambition when i was in high school.  I didn't know how to dress,  shop for myself,  cook, or anything.  All I knew how to do was play SNES and jerk off to softcore  porn. I wound up joining the Air Force. I didn't even know what sized boots I was supposed to wear and wound up fucking up my feet.  I was pretty useless. 

Fast forward to now.  The Air Force instilled a lot of values in me.  I'm confident,  sexy,  and enjoying life.  Join the military.  They'll make a man out of you. 



Twitter: @d21lewis

VAMatt said:

That's a cop out.  Stop making excuses and do something for yourself.  In the time you've spent in this thread, you could have found a job in a local grocery store doing worthwhile work, making some money, and giving yourself some structure and responsibility.  

Again, sorry I'm being difficult, but you have to imagine I've heard all this before. I'm a lost cause, I wouldn't bother continuing to waste time on me.

John2290 said:

You have a choice as you are looking for one here and taking a chance to choose to assess your situation and attempt to plot a course forward in a direction that suits you is far more beneficial than asking people on the internet who don't know your situation.

As for me, I've half destroyed and my mind with drugs and frayed my nerves, burned pretty much every bridge socially and with that paved a path for my social abilities too turn to mush and financially wounded myself enough to just be poor enough so no relocation options are available. I'm trapped in a purgatory of my own creation and I've been here long enough now that if I were to get out of it I'd have such a shock to the system I'd probably commit turn it of and not on again yet week after week my mind and will fade a little more. At least I have a job, well sort of, and enough money for comfortable living with little stress. That, a dog and a cat are all I have left. Funny how fast it all happened too.

Assess your shit before you find yourself in an unwinable position like me, a slave to the world around you far more than your own will and want. 

I mean I don't have choice but to think to myself since I have no one to talk to anyway. I don't know everything however, so deciding that there's no other options without getting any feedback from people who know things I don't is unwise. It does seem like I was right tho lol.

Damn thats rough, but atleast it sounds like you're just one step away from not being in such a sad spot anymore, assuming your loneliness is the main issue. Given what you said about the drugs, I guess finding friends will be the hardest part. That's what I'm afraid of, working a shitty job til I die for no reason.