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Will you boycott Blizzard?

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Don't buy Overwatch on Switch, it's 30 fps, no crossplay and the recent China scandal.

Buy Witcher 3 on Switch instead, it looks and runs great!



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Radek said:

Don't buy Overwatch on Switch, it's 30 fps, no crossplay and the recent China scandal.

Buy Witcher 3 on Switch instead, it looks and runs great!

I have no interest in either, but I especially have even less interest in buying Overwatch for Switch now.



As someone who has lived in a totalitarian, communist country, Activision/Blizzard can go fuck themselves. I'll never purchase anything from them again.



I haven't bought a Blizzard game since Overwatch in 2016, and I don't plan to any time soon. Choosing Chinese money over freedom of speech is just dirty.



theprof00 said:

I have inside info on d4, it's getting announced at blizzcon. Mix of open world, and instanced dungeons, global events etc.

Basically, take the world system of WoW and apply it to diablo. Also going to be much gorier, M rating

Also, I can see why they suspended him as well. Political standpoints really have no place in a sporting arena. Would you guys be concerned if he or anyone had said, "Reunification of China, number 1!" or "America for Americans, one nation under God", or "thank you to everyone, praise Allah", or, "FUCK TRUMP" etc?

The point is, bringing politics, religion into a fairly large tele-casted event is a big no-no and most of the people who do it KNOW there is going to be backlash but they weigh the pros and cons and find themselves willing to bring attention to a topic at their own peril. Regardless of the topic at hand, these events cannot become soapboxes for tournament winners. I think a ban is not only the right call for the event but to send a message to future event winners that, yes while it's important to support the causes in the world, there is a time and a place for everything.

This is being treated like it's appeasement, but it's a business decision. Pro gaming is still in its infancy, when things like this happen it takes away the credibility of the platform. 

It's both, they're appeasing China for their money. Your examples are not remotely close to what Blitzchung said, and what is actually said is what matters, not that it can be labeled political. The rule they violated doesn't even say anything about political statements specifically, it was purely up to Blizzard's discretion to decide if what they said is offensive and what level of punishment to dole out. You're definitely right though that credibility has been lost... for Blizzard lul.



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Lonely_Dolphin said:
theprof00 said:

I have inside info on d4, it's getting announced at blizzcon. Mix of open world, and instanced dungeons, global events etc.

Basically, take the world system of WoW and apply it to diablo. Also going to be much gorier, M rating

Also, I can see why they suspended him as well. Political standpoints really have no place in a sporting arena. Would you guys be concerned if he or anyone had said, "Reunification of China, number 1!" or "America for Americans, one nation under God", or "thank you to everyone, praise Allah", or, "FUCK TRUMP" etc?

The point is, bringing politics, religion into a fairly large tele-casted event is a big no-no and most of the people who do it KNOW there is going to be backlash but they weigh the pros and cons and find themselves willing to bring attention to a topic at their own peril. Regardless of the topic at hand, these events cannot become soapboxes for tournament winners. I think a ban is not only the right call for the event but to send a message to future event winners that, yes while it's important to support the causes in the world, there is a time and a place for everything.

This is being treated like it's appeasement, but it's a business decision. Pro gaming is still in its infancy, when things like this happen it takes away the credibility of the platform. 

It's both, they're appeasing China for their money. Your examples are not remotely close to what Blitzchung said, and what is actually said is what matters, not that it can be labeled political. The rule they violated doesn't even say anything about political statements specifically, it was purely up to Blizzard's discretion to decide if what they said is offensive and what level of punishment to dole out. You're definitely right though that credibility has been lost... for Blizzard lul.

It 100% is a political statement. He called for a revolution bro. The key word in that is 'revolt'. 

I'm also 100% FOR an independent HK AND Tibet. However, if you use your spotlight to highlight a controversy there are going to be repurcussions. End of story. It doesn't matter who or what you support, china, trump, anti trump, gay rights, anti gay rights, etc it most certainly ALWAYS has a bad result. For sure I also support freedom of speech and beliefs, but it has to be understood that doing such IS A GAMBLE.

What is Blizzard supposed to do in this situation? Not do anything? I don't agree with what was done on a personal level, but just try and put yourself in Blizzard's shoes. wtf are the supposed to do? Let him say whatever he wants? Let ANYONE say whatever they want? There is a time and a place, and neither was here.



I think I'm still going to buy Overwatch. Their waifu game is too strong!



theprof00 said:
BraLoD said:
Couldn't care less about Blizzard political stand.
Just announce Diablo 4 already.
Also, please make Diablo 1 available for the PS5 and PLEASE port Diablo 2 to consoles already!

I have inside info on d4, it's getting announced at blizzcon. Mix of open world, and instanced dungeons, global events etc.

Basically, take the world system of WoW and apply it to diablo. Also going to be much gorier, M rating

Any info on release date for the PS5?

Also, haven't seem you around for real long... hope you are doing fine.



theprof00 said:

It 100% is a political statement. He called for a revolution bro. The key word in that is 'revolt'. 

I'm also 100% FOR an independent HK AND Tibet. However, if you use your spotlight to highlight a controversy there are going to be repurcussions. End of story. It doesn't matter who or what you support, china, trump, anti trump, gay rights, anti gay rights, etc it most certainly ALWAYS has a bad result. For sure I also support freedom of speech and beliefs, but it has to be understood that doing such IS A GAMBLE.

What is Blizzard supposed to do in this situation? Not do anything? I don't agree with what was done on a personal level, but just try and put yourself in Blizzard's shoes. wtf are the supposed to do? Let him say whatever he wants? Let ANYONE say whatever they want? There is a time and a place, and neither was here.

I didn't say it wasn't a political statement, I said that doesn't matter more than what is actually said. Revolt doesn't mean violence, it means rebelling against oppressive authority. That statement is not gonna cause controversy like your examples as who the hell would disagree with that, aside from the Chinese government of course.

No harm was done, so no action was needed. At most, like another user suggested, they should of just given him a warning and asked him not to make such statements. You keep wanting to frame it as just upholding the rules, except again, there was nothing in the rules against political statements. Even if there was, it's ultimately up to Blizzard to decide if what was said offends anyone. It's pretty obvious that the offended group here is China.



Ka-pi96 said:
Zoombael said:
It's... understandable? The rational and dry: Are there clear guidelines / rules what doesnt go and what the penalties are? If there are and the now banned player was aware of the consequences then Blizzard did nothing wrong.


The "don't you guys have phones" on the other hand made me... emotional. Really emotional. I am not a fan of any Blizzard IP.

Really? So you'd follow rules/guidelines even if they're morally objectionable?

Would it be morally objectionable if it simply says "No Politics!". And it looks like the rules do exactly say that.

Had they suspended him for being politically active outside of any blizzard event, then there would be something very wrong.

Last edited by Zoombael - on 11 October 2019

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