Sigh, knew before I clicked on the thread there'd be be someone bashing and blatantly misrepresenting Greta Thunburg. Real class act picking on a teenage girl.

God forbid a member of the younger generation wants to inherit a world that hasn't been totally trashed. As someone who works with her generation for a living I sure am glad they're the future.

She's ridiculous. She's not above any criticism and just a pawn.

The world will be fine in her lifetime.

Hmmmm, a teenage girl simply asking that we listen to the science and plan our future responsibly or grown adults vehemently bashing her for doing so? Frankly, it's not the former I find ridiculous.

Sigh, should've known better than to post in a climate change thread in my condition; jumping ship here before the toxicity goes through the roof. Won't be reading any more so anyone quoting me will be wasting their time.

Focus on ocean pollution, promote nuclear energy, and get China and India on board.

Nuclear energy is no reasonable alternative as long as the waste problem is not solved yet. We still need to find a way to safely dispose the nuclear waste.

Right, because every scientific theory has come true. I think the planet was supposed to be flooded years ago. Hence, when the "science" is looking like propaganda don't be surprised when people stop listening.

Its also annoying to see the media blaming every natural disaster on climate change regardless of history. Politicians keep saying the planet is gonna be flooded in 10 years or so, some think we should treat this like WWIII. Climate change also being racist is kinda hilarious. That's why people roll their eyes when the word "science" is used.

Personally, I suppose we should do more to keep the planet cleaner in general. But propaganda and unreasonable solutions are being thrown out there to make this seem like a bigger threat than it truly is at the moment. Propaganda is often just means of controlling people immediately and maybe help win some elections.

Why do people assume that China or India wants to follow an example being poor or let alone wants to be poor at all ? 

There's no way the former or it's people would want to go back to the 'green' dark ages where everyone was a farmer who then suffered famine and high mortality. The latter has high hopes to lead in with the former's success so they too want to be filthy industrial rich ... 

Why can't the West just let the rest of the world industrialize the fastest and most effective way they want for their own citizens ? 

I feel like western civilization is doomed if they embrace being poor as a virtue ... 

Im talking about apples, and your mentioning oranges.

Takeing steps to limit polution doesnt mean going back to a "dark age" without industry or technology.
Please dont quote me anymore (with this topic), your clearly trolling in this thread, so lets just nip this in the bud.

Really stop assuming the whole world is manipulated by those American politics over at your place because here they do not have a big impact on the thoughts of people about trying to do better for our environment,being tribalistic blinds you.

Ofcourse climate change has been existent since "climate" started to exist and that does not negate our industrial and consumeristic influence on it right now.

There will be places where sealevels can drop or stagnate because or other environmental influences but on a global scale and not just the pinpoint places you think to be evidenceworthy the sealevel has a high probability to rise with continous global warming that is mainly caused from CO2 releases in our atmosphere,most of those releases we can't help and nature itself is highly responsible for it but what we CAN do is minimizing our bit of influence on it in the hope to slow the process of warming(that can even result in extreme cooling) so we get more time to adapt to the shift of climate in future and avoid tragedy.