Jaicee said:
Lonely_Dolphin said:
Why would you believe that's what I'm saying given the context rather than the obvious "gender/race of characters are irrelevant?" It's really not so hard to believe that people who don't like something you do can have legitimate reasons for not liking it, that they're not all just blind mob haters.
Like I could just say everyone who likes the last jedi are just blind fanboys who only love it because the lead has breast, but I'm better than that.
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Okay well I'm just saying it's a fact that women (and yes, people of color too for that matter, and also gay people and even more especially lesbians specifically as well) are definitely under-represented in film, so it just seems to me like, honestly, if you're complaining that there are too many women on your screen, it's proooooobably because you're doing so in bad faith.
Let me throw some statistics your way: the total number of films cracking the top ten highest-grossing ones either domestically in the U.S. or worldwide overall in the last two years featuring a female director is zero. The total number of female-directed films winning Best Picture at the U.S. Academy Awards to date is one, and it was a 2010 film about war that featured almost no women. Only one-third of characters with speaking roles on-screen are female and only 9% of films feature sex-balanced casts. 14% of superhero and science fiction-themed movies released over the last decade have featured solo female lead characters, while 47% have featured solo male lead characters. (In other words, the latter outnumber the former by a margin of more than three to one.) Also, only 36% of gay or bisexual characters in film in 2018 were female; gay men are way more represented than lesbians outside of porn.
There is a certain type of role, however, that is most often assigned to females: "Females were far more likely than their male counterparts in 2018 to be shown in sexually revealing attire (29.2% vs. 7.4%) and with some nudity (27.3% vs. 8.5%). Girls/women were also more likely than boys/men to be referenced as attractive by other characters (10.2% vs. 2.7%)." So yes, in fact, girls and women are definitely more sexualized in film. Let me suggest that that could reflect who makes the movies and who they're mostly made for.
Much of this and other relevant data can be found here.
Similar rules of thumb apply across the art world, as it pertains to girls and women:
-In art galleries, about 5% of all artists in Modern Art sections worldwide are women, while by contrast some 85% of the nudes are female. -In music, according to a sweeping study released last year, only 22% of the top 1,239 performing musicians between 2012 and 2017 were women, as were only 12% of their songwriters. -Porn is by far the main form of media representation that lesbians have (if that even counts considering how few of those performers are actually lesbian).
I could go on, but I think you get the idea. My point is that, in as far as recent increases in representation for women in film and other artistic mediums (including games) has occurred, it has been toward correcting a clear-cut imbalance strongly favoring boys and men. Specifically concerning film, the actual reason why you're seeing more movies narratively center girls and women these days is because the movies that do so tend to make more money. In other words, moviegoing audiences seem to like them, taken as a whole. So when people go around complaining that there's too much "diversity" in media or about preeeetty much every major film or game that has prominent female characters in it, I'm inclined to have a skeptical attitude about that. I think many men just simply don't wish to lose their privileged representational status, that's all.
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