The problem with calling LITE it's own separate handheld is that it doesn't have differentiating features. Sure it's weaker than the Switch in capabilities, but so does the 3ds. But the 3ds was also 3d.

On top of this, there are no unique games for the LITE. 3ds had it's own lineup of games. If we count LITE as it's own device then it will have terrible sales numbers because it isn't a uniquely dedicated handheld with a unique lineup of games. If it was, I'd buy it myself. As it stands, why would I get it when I can already play those games on my current switch, which I can almost always fit in my pocket? I suspect there are many that would get one of it had unique games, and then we could count it as a legit handheld separate from the Switch. However, because it doesn't have the unique game advantage, I think it would be unfair to call it it's own device for tracking purposes, as it won't sell nearly as much as a unique get backed device like the 3ds would.

But that's the thing... it has the one differentiating feature that literally makes it either a handheld or a hybrid. You CANNOT plug it into a TV. I do not care if it plays all the games or not, or can also support controllers or not. What makes something a home console is that it's tethered to a TV, you cannot use the device without a TV (as such to my original argument in 2017 on why the switch should never have been grouped with home consoles to begin with). What makes something a handheld is that its mobile or on the go, the device can exist in its entirety without a TV because it has its own TV.

It's not about if its weaker or stronger, bigger or smaller. Its about use case/form factor, that is the key differentiator between something being a handheld and a home console. The Switch lite is NOT a home console. Its that simple...

Ok, let me make it simple for everyone...

Is the Nintendo Switch Lite a home console? Or a handheld.

It really simple. The Switch Lite is a Switch.

This whole argument about the Switch lite being counted differently is stupid. Its not a new unique device. Its a PORTABLE ONLY SWITCH. Its still a Switch. Also everyone (NPD, Famitsu, Media Create) will combine them because they dont have weird agenda's, they just report data.

Lol... and that my friend is a cop out. Ok, the vey name switch was becaue it could be used as a "home console" and a "handheld". Hence why the whole ybrid thing came about. Can you use the Switch lite as a home console? So what is it "switching" to?

Again,for the umpteenth time (and I am guessing this keeps coming up cause its the best way to dismiss what I am saying). I have never said, that the switch lite be counted differently. I am saying that it (the Nintendo Switch as a platform) being counted along with home consoles was and is a mistake to begin with. And I have been saying that since 2017. The reason its coming up again is that Nintendo just validated my point. They made a switch lite.

Right now? the switch as a platform has more in common with a handheld than a home console, and you don't have to take my word for it... in two years you will find that the switch lite is the better selling iteration of the Nintendo switch with the larger install base. You can chalk this off as yet another prediction I am making, the same way I said (back in 2017)that in under 3 years Nintendo will make a dedicated handheld version of the switch the second they try and make a cheaper version.

Are we just going to continue pretending that the Nintendo Switch lite is not a handheld in every traditional sense of the word?

What would have happened if the psvitaTV had taken off and become more popular than the og portable Vita? Would that mean that it had always been a mistake to call the vita portable when clearly the pstv was a dedicated home console with the same guts as a vita.

Does the existence of that different device mean the first devices form factor changed in any way?

Good question... and unlike the luxury afforded to me, I will answer you directly as opposed to answering you with another question. As far as aI am concerned, the PSVTV was not a handheld. It was a home console. Why? because you could NEVER use it as a handheld. Simple as that.

Granted, things were never that cut and dry for the switch (until now) because unlike the PS vita, the Switch was not "just a handheld" It was a hybrid. A device that could do both and be used as both. But the Switch lite is not the same device... it cannot be used as both. So why should we still treat it as if it could? simply because it plays the same games? The damn name of the platform was based on something that the Lite can't o for crying out loud!!!

My issue with allthis is that I foresaw this very thing happening, which is why back then I insisted (and got stick for it) that the Switch should never have been grouped together with home consoles simply because it "can" be used as a home console. Using the switch as a home console is optional whereas a traditional home console simply doesn't have the choice, that the only way it can work. And now that the switch lite exists... we are now flat out comparing sales of a handheld to a home console. Something that we can only do if we somehow pretend that the switch lite s the exact same device as the OG Switch... which it most definitely isn't.

Lol the switch lite won’t overtake the regular switch in total sales or weekly sales. I would even say that this time next year the og switch will still garner most of the sales 

Again, you are all wasting your time. NPD, Famitsu, VGchartz, ect will ALL count the Switch Lite as a Switch and no amount of your hot air will change that. Also Switch sales will be compared to Xbox/PS4/PS5/Xbox next because it has ALL of Nintendo's games and they are all $60 a pop. An analyst predicted that the switch may sell 200 million units. If it does, THAT NUMBER will be compared to the PS4, like it or not. Dont like it. Too bad. Ask Sony to make a portable PS4.

Wait. Is a lower price now a non factor? Since when? I'd bet money the Switch Lite will eventually outsell the Switch.