€99+6 postage works out at around 95 or so pounds, CEX charges 1.50 for postage of items so ... yeah it's close to the same price, but again.... you're talking about less than half the performance for more money.

Regardless of your country btw you probably have services there for buying from other countries and delivering them to you, just like... for the UK stores some of them don't ship to Ireland but we've got 2 big companies who will accept packages on behalf of us Paddies from UK stores and forward them on for a lil extra fee, could be worth looking into in case you're limited to certain stores in your region some point down the line.

1060 is a neat enough purchase in 2019 though, performance wise that card is perfectly in line with the best you could get from a older gen 780TI and even the lower end version has the same 3GB of video memory that the 780ti had

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-780-Ti-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1060-3GB/2165vs3646

The one I keep banging on about to people though is that new AMD 5700 or 5700XT, the price point is mid range but it reaches upwards of 1080 in terms of benchmarks, If I was going for an upgrade from my current main PC gpu (a 980TI) I would consider that 5700XT as the next step.

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-RX-5700-vs-Nvidia-GTX-1080/4046vs3603

That's the non xt comparison, the XT is actually 15% faster than the 1080 and yeah... you see the price of those cards on amazon and such https://www.amazon.co.uk/PowerColor-Radeon-5700-Graphic-Card/dp/B07TB5LFGM/ref=sr_1_4?keywords=5700&qid=1569652336&s=gateway&sr=8-4 309 for that, very respectable for what's in the box.

Chazore said: Since we've had talk about "games being designed for consoles", David Cage had a recent interview, in which their future games will now be designed with PC in mind: https://www.onlysp.com/david-cage-quantic-dream-interview-heavy-rain-beyond-two-souls-detroit-become-human/ Also, just to reiterate:

I don't know man. I think consoles will always be were the money is at for developers. Just look at the sales of a game like AC Oddysey. 72% Of it comes from ps4, 26% from Xbox and only 2% from pc.

http://www.vgchartz.com/article/393568/assassins-creed-odyssey-sells-an-estimated-14-million-units-first-week-at-retail/

This is exactly why nobody is making games that truly push the latest pc hardware. I mean the OP was asking for anyone to name a few games that could push his 2080Ti and he's still waiting for an answer. The truth is, those games simply don't exist yet but they will be... as soon as the next gen console games come out. 

Some PC retail boxes just include a box with a redeemable download CD Key inside that you redeem on Steam. I kid you not. Haha

I wouldn't be surprised to be honest, that's damn impressive eitherway.

But that is your argument when you essentially stated that unless you have a Geforce 2080, that your PC might as well end in the bin.
Do I need to bring more quotes out? Talk about disingenuous...

Here we go again... He pulled out another game to try and shift the goal post.

1) Get a Radeon 5870. (He is using a Radeon 5850.)
2) Overclock said Radeon 5870. (Most can do 950/1250 over the stock 900/1225 {Core/Mem} if not more.)
3) Drop settings to low. (Video is using medium.)
4) Drop resolution back to 900P or maybe even 720P (Video is using 1080P, Xbox One is 792P.)
5) Profit.

But you know what is amazing? That a GPU from 10 years ago is running that game at all, there is still room to improve the experience.

I bet a GPU that is a year newer like the Radeon 6970 with it's 2GB buffer would probably be fine running the game at 1080P.
The lesser 6950 (With a heap of Medium settings again):

Umm. Think lower than a hypothetical RTX 3060.
RTX 3030/RTX 3050/RTX 3050 Ti... And maybe the RTX 3060. - They will likely all have fillrates and memory buffers that come up short against the RTX 2080, nVidia never makes a high-end GPU a low-end one in a single generation these days.

Doesn't matter what you said.

Let's take Polaris... That released in 2016 as the Radeon RX 480 8GB.
Next year it will be 4 years old... It's still a very capable mid-range part.

AMD later rebadged it as the RX 580, then ported the design over to 12nm, increased clocks and called it the RX 590,  those GPU's are not going to suddenly become incapable of gaming next year.

Umm. The PC is the domain of MMO's. - It has lots of big worlds that get streamed in.. And that was happening before SSD's became mainstream.

But just because you have fast storage doesn't mean you will have zero load times, load times being eliminated is not guaranteed for next-gen, don't drink the propaganda kool-aid being pushed out, it's up to the developers in the end... Just like 1080P/4k on the current consoles.
Games still need to compile shaders, decompress textures and games that use procedural generations... Need to procedurally generate... And such tasks are often held back by the CPU or GPU rather than the storage subsystem and thus a loading screen is still a requirement in some scenarios.

SSD's on PC will be faster than the Playstation 5, in games that are held back by sequential memory transfers into DRAM, the PC will beat consoles... Fast SSD's aren't a replacement for RAM, which the PC also has more of.
In short you can eliminate load times on PC today... When the above aren't factors.

Those are the real facts.

The Xbox One X and Playstation 4 Pro often only use medium-quality PC equivalent settings... Which don't stray significantly far from the base consoles. - But because their hardware is only mid-range, developers tend to sink all the extra headroom into driving resolution/framerates.

High-end PC's actually get used, they get higher resolutions, higher framerates, better texturing, lighting, shadowing, effects and more.

Next-gen consoles the resolution will be entirely up to the developers, just like this generation, on PC you can choose.

I am impressed. 

Get Pavlov VR. Community is very strong with this one and the dev team recently grow bigger. It's still getting an awesome wave of support. 

I would also appreciate you to learn how to play in some bot matches and figure out on how to plant the bomb, because I still see a lot of newcomer who go multiplayer and don't know how to enter the code shown on the top left corner of the display on the bomb. 

Not sure if laws have changed or not, but I knew people on welfare, who paid like $100 a week for a 3 bedroom house for the department housing they were given. They also were given a concession card for health care and other public services.

As for work for the dole scheme that we now have, I have had some employers say they lie about the person doing work for the dole. The main reason is because it is easier for them to say that then to deal with them on site as they tent to waste time and create more work then the original work is intended to do.

I am not against the dole in principle, but when you can clearly see that some people don't try to get out of that cycle, then something needs to be done. However I don't think it will be as it is easier to create welfare suburbs and ship the problem out of mind and out of site. Give them enough cash not to cause trouble (ie reduce crimes like breakins) and it isn't a problem.

Hopefully the pension problem will reduce over time as now we have super funds to offset 100% reliance on government payments.

I didn't say anyone should just chug their pc in the bin if they don't have a 2700RTX next gen. I'm saying the minimum requirements will go up to match exactly what will be in these consoles for most major releases in 2021. If you want to play those games in 720p at the lowest settings, then fine. But after all the talk about 120FPS, 4k resolution on triple monitors, it doesn't sound like that is a viable option.

I don't think you understand what minimum requirement means, and also 120 fps at 4k isn't minimum, just putting that out there. :) 

It's what game publishers write on the back of the box. You honestly believe they would lock out a huge slice of potential customers just for fun and giggles? Like I said, they write it so customers don't cry in outrage about lackluster porting and demand refunds if their game runs like donkey poo on anything below the minimum requirements.

I didn't say anyone should just chug their pc in the bin if they don't have a 2700RTX next gen. I'm saying the minimum requirements will go up to match exactly what will be in these consoles for most major releases in 2021. If you want to play those games in 720p at the lowest settings, then fine. But after all the talk about 120FPS, 4k resolution on triple monitors, it doesn't sound like that is a viable option.

Of course, a RX590 is still a very capable mid-range card, it's basically the gpu that sits inside the Xbox One X. What you seem to be missing, however, is that the ps4 came out 7 years ago and all major games we're seeing right now are designed for the ps4. Keep in mind that the ps4 has a gpu that came out 5 years before the RX590. We will have to see how a RX590 compares to the ps5's gpu, but do you honestly believe the RX590 will be able to keep up? If so then I will be seriously disappointed and the OP still won't have any games that'll really make use of his 2080ti.

Let me just ask you this. What exactly are you expecting from these next gen consoles?  

I mean, if a 590RX will be fine next gen, then please explain to me why anyone would wanna buy the next Xbox, when the Xbox One X already has a RX590 in it? You're basically saying that MS doesn't even need to release a new console as they already have the Xbox X on the market for 2 years now...  

It's what game publishers write on the back of the box. You honestly believe they would lock out a huge slice of potential customers just for fun and giggles? Like I said, they write it so customers don't cry in outrage about lackluster porting and demand refunds if their game runs like donkey poo on anything below the minimum requirements.

Funny how you didn't reply to the rest, though, as I'm actually dying to know if you expect any leap from these next gen consoles at all? Also, please explain to me why anyone would want to buy the Scarlett when the Xbox One X already has a RX590? A gpu, you say is more than capable of running these next gen games. 

It's what game publishers write on the back of the box. You honestly believe they would lock out a huge slice of potential customers just for fun and giggles? Like I said, they write it so customers don't cry in outrage about lackluster porting and demand refunds if their game runs like donkey poo on anything below the minimum requirements.

Funny how you didn't reply to the rest, though, as I'm actually dying to know if you expect any leap from these next gen consoles at all? Also, please explain to me why anyone would want to buy the Scarlett when the Xbox One X already has a RX590? A gpu, you say is more than capable of running these next gen games. 

Thanks for the suggestion.. will definitely give Pavlov a try.  I've played firewall zero hour quite a bit on psvr, so I'm excited to see how different room scale and body tracking works vs using a ps aim.  Would be awesome if someone could get the ps aim working with pcvr... Some "guns" are rediculously overpriced and others available look like doo.

Also.. finally seeing this screen door effect thing more prominent in the HTC Vive than psvr.  It goes away once immersed in a game, but is it due to higher quality pixeling?  Psvr blurs a bit so screen door not so apparent..  do like how on the Vive, it is easier to read texts and graphics are definitely a step up..