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I'm going to reitterate my offer - I have a guest bedroom available just outside of Washington, DC.  There are a lot of people in this thread that seem to need some first hand exposure to the USA.  You're all invited to make use of my guest bedroom.  Then, we can go out and dodge bullets as we see the sights.  It's basically like a real-life video game here.  



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A few days after Uruguay labels United States as a dangerous travel destination, Amnesty International, who usually only advise precaution to war zones, released this:

Avoid malls, schools and churches...

Meanwhile in New York city:


I've heard vehicles backfire many times. Didn't cause any panic because we don't have mass shooting every week.
But it's definitely the videogames.

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VAMatt said:

I'm going to reitterate my offer - I have a guest bedroom available just outside of Washington, DC.  There are a lot of people in this thread that seem to need some first hand exposure to the USA.  You're all invited to make use of my guest bedroom.  Then, we can go out and dodge bullets as we see the sights.  It's basically like a real-life video game here.  

What you are proposing would only be anecdotal at best and thus can generally be discarded unless you are getting into more micro localized issues.

Statistics which have already been provided in this thread multiple times is far more empirical and gives a wider view of the issue at large country-wide, if you are suggesting there isn't a gun culture or significant gun massacre rates in parts of the USA... Well. How do you explain the large numbers of people killed? Meaningless statistics?



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I know I should feel dissapointed but all I could was laughing...

Walmart to remove signs showing violence, including video games. But it'll still sell guns.






konnichiwa said:

I know I should feel dissapointed but all I could was laughing...

Walmart to remove signs showing violence, including video games. But it'll still sell guns.

Yes, I saw that too. Absolutely hilarious! That's next level facepalm quality.



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GoOnKid said:
konnichiwa said:

I know I should feel dissapointed but all I could was laughing...

Walmart to remove signs showing violence, including video games. But it'll still sell guns.

Yes, I saw that too. Absolutely hilarious! That's next level facepalm quality.

Just wait till the mass shootings rate drops the next months; politicians will force us with the idea 'told you, after reducing the exposure of violent video games, the mass shooting rate dropped'






VAMatt said:

I'm going to reitterate my offer - I have a guest bedroom available just outside of Washington, DC.  There are a lot of people in this thread that seem to need some first hand exposure to the USA.  You're all invited to make use of my guest bedroom.  Then, we can go out and dodge bullets as we see the sights.  It's basically like a real-life video game here.  

This is a really bad argument.

1. Using this kind of argument you could say that pretty much every country in the world is safe, as long as the part where you live is.

Example A: "the threat of terror in Afghanistan is way overblown. Let me invite you to my home in Afghanistan and I'll show you what the country actually is like"

Example B: "I have a nice house with a small guest house in the backyard, come and stay for a week or two and we'll explore Mexico. Perhaps go on a cartel hunt or something."

Example C: "why don't you come visit me in Sweden and stay in my apartment in Stockholm. Show you our country. Get some photos of rampaging islamists, perhaps catch some women wearing burkas."

2. Using the same kind of argument you could argue that your country is the worst place on earth, just switch the location to one of the least secure ones in your nation and there you go.

Example: "Please come and live with me in my house in Detroit. I'll give you first hand exposure of the USA. Bring a bulletproof vest. No seriously, bring a bulletproof vest, it's fucking horrible here."

In short: do not use the place where you live as some kind of measurement for what the entire nation is like, because doing so is not particularly clever.



So Walmart has acted and they have pulled violent video game ads for 2 weeks out of respect for the victims... lol wtf

https://www.ign.com/articles/2019/08/09/walmart-reportedly-removing-violent-game-ads-will-still-sell-guns

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I'll go ahead and bow out of this conversation after this. What we seem to have here is a bunch of non-Americans pretending to speak on American culture, and life in the USA with authority. There are a couple of Americans in here trying to constructively contribute to the conversation, with first-hand knowledge and experience. But, many of y'all persist in thinking that you know better than the people that actually live through this stuff. I hope you guys recognize that you are simply living in a state of ignorance. You all might think back on the old adage about statistics and who uses them.

Also, this topic should be moved to the politics forum. It hasn't really been about gaming for a couple of days now.



So it still going to come back to... unless we go sit down in someones spare room with them for a day and observe us not getting shot while staying there... that means that there is no gun/murder issue in the States? Or while people are from another country we are not able to observe numbers or understand what being murdered means?

From Wiki on the subject, regarding US VS Developed countries.
The U.S. is ranked 4th out of 34 developed nations for the highest incidence rate of homicides committed with a firearm, according to Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) data. Mexico, Turkey, Estonia are ranked ahead of the U.S. in incidence of homicides. A U.S. male aged 15–24 is 70 times more likely to be killed with a gun than their counterpart in the eight (G-8) largest industrialized nations in the world (United Kingdom, France, Germany, Japan, Canada, Italy, Russia).

Now.... you might think, 70 times sounds crazy because you haven't been shot, but those figures aren't drawn up from a magic 8 ball or from my Irish flag... those are figures, they are the statistics, I'm not sure why there is some sort of rebellion against the numbers being a thing which explain the number of gun homicide right there in black and white. Could people at least put forwards another possible reason for the 70x increased chance of murder by gun there for that age bracket? Maybe the matrix was more popular in the states and people are still doing test trials to see if they're Neo?


Or is the USA version of the youtube prank going wrong just... something that can go extra wrong because guns are present.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/youtube-shooting-death-monalisa-perez-pedro-ruiz-a8257411.html
That story still blows me away when you see the power of the gun she used on her husband.



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