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Intrinsic on 30 July 2019
zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

So are we just going to pretend that in the two weeks of July so far no shipments have been made?And you see that 1.3M NS difference, thats about what I expect it to be. Not 700K!!!

Your post literally makes zero sense.

You need to compare end of June shipments to end of June sales, not end of June shipments to middle of July sales.

And if we did that the PS4 will have 3.M or so on shelves.... to the switches 1.3M or so. 

That is even worse and further drives the pint I am making. 



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zorg1000 on 30 July 2019
Intrinsic said:
zorg1000 said:

Your post literally makes zero sense.

You need to compare end of June shipments to end of June sales, not end of June shipments to middle of July sales.

And if we did that the PS4 will have 3.M or so on shelves.... to the switches 1.3M or so. 

That is even worse and further drives the pint I am making. 

How so? You claimed PS4 was 1m undertracked and NSW 1m overtracked.

Sony gave out shipped and sold data for the end of 2018 and there was a 2.6 million difference. I know end of holiday differences are usually higher than other times of the year but with last quarter likely being overshipped, it's probably still in that same range. PS4 probably isnt anymore than 500k overshipped.

NSW is probably pretty close to right on the money as they want to slowly try to phase out the current model.



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Oneeee-Chan!!! on 30 July 2019

It seems hardware numbers adjusted.



Intrinsic on 30 July 2019
zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

And if we did that the PS4 will have 3.M or so on shelves.... to the switches 1.3M or so. 

That is even worse and further drives the pint I am making. 

How so? You claimed PS4 was 1m undertracked and NSW 1m overtracked.

Sony gave out shipped and sold data for the end of 2018 and there was a 2.6 million difference. I know end of holiday differences are usually higher than other times of the year but with last quarter likely being overshipped, it's probably still in that same range. PS4 probably isnt anymore than 500k overshipped.

NSW is probably pretty close to right on the money as they want to slowly try to phase out the current model.

And numbers have been adjusted. Switched dropped by around 200k. 



zorg1000 on 30 July 2019
Intrinsic said:
zorg1000 said:

How so? You claimed PS4 was 1m undertracked and NSW 1m overtracked.

Sony gave out shipped and sold data for the end of 2018 and there was a 2.6 million difference. I know end of holiday differences are usually higher than other times of the year but with last quarter likely being overshipped, it's probably still in that same range. PS4 probably isnt anymore than 500k overshipped.

NSW is probably pretty close to right on the money as they want to slowly try to phase out the current model.

And numbers have been adjusted. Switched dropped by around 200k. 

Yep 200k is pretty spot on, you said 1 million.



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Intrinsic on 30 July 2019
zorg1000 said:
Intrinsic said:

And numbers have been adjusted. Switched dropped by around 200k. 

Yep 200k is pretty spot on, you said 1 million.

I still believe 200k is too small fan adjustment. Just honestly don't have the energy to debate it out as it makes no real difference anyway because at the end of the day what is really important are shipped numbers not VGC sales estimates on sold numbers.



colafitte on 30 July 2019

PS4 was very undertracked indeed, now with adjustments must be closer to reality. More than 2M on transit is still a lot in this period of the year so i still think is a little undertracked but i won't "fight" for just a few 100k more or less, it's fine like this. Switch on the other side seems to be on point right now i think.



Ganoncrotch on 30 July 2019
trunkswd said:
Oneeee-Chan!!! said:
It seems hardware numbers adjusted.

Adjustments are being made. I need to go region by region for each platform to made adjustments. 

Keep up the good work, cool to see the focus on getting things as close as possible to the released figures with smaller adjustments than needing to pull the rug out from under either machines sales. Shame that MS doesn't release solid figures for their machine anymore, I could only imagine it would get a boost up from 38k I mean... it couldn't be any worse than that estimate just yet.



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Bofferbrauer2 on 31 July 2019
colafitte said:
PS4 was very undertracked indeed, now with adjustments must be closer to reality. More than 2M on transit is still a lot in this period of the year so i still think is a little undertracked but i won't "fight" for just a few 100k more or less, it's fine like this. Switch on the other side seems to be on point right now i think.

I don't question the PS4's sales, but I do wonder a bit where they are being sold. My guess is that the RoW is getting more and more important and the big 3 (Japan, the US and Europe) getting less and less of the global sales share.



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colafitte on 31 July 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
colafitte said:
PS4 was very undertracked indeed, now with adjustments must be closer to reality. More than 2M on transit is still a lot in this period of the year so i still think is a little undertracked but i won't "fight" for just a few 100k more or less, it's fine like this. Switch on the other side seems to be on point right now i think.

I don't question the PS4's sales, but I do wonder a bit where they are being sold. My guess is that the RoW is getting more and more important and the big 3 (Japan, the US and Europe) getting less and less of the global sales share.

Yes, probably. I feel the same. I miss the old days when you had "others" on the sales page. You still can obtain the number resting US+EU+JP from the total but it was a quick way to notice how much stronger can be a console outside the main markets.