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Actually, it seems to me that gaming journalism is starting to get over the hump of social activism and offense culture. I'm seeing less of that and more of actual gaming journalism about the games themselves(duh), scandals in the business, investigations into the working conditions and such.
Perhaps I'm just seeing what I want to see.



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Cerebralbore101 said:

I legit didn't know they existed. How long have they been around? I'll be reading them for a while instead of PCG. Also a site called explorminate is pretty damned good if you like 4X games. 

Also, I'm so godamned relieved to see you agreeing with me about PCG. I thought I was losing touch, and most people thought PCG was good or decent. But you are one of the biggest PC Gamers (no pun intended) on this site, and you hate it too. 

Well, DSOG hired one of it's own readers to do some news articles of their own, since they kept on posting news, well ahead of time, before the site itself could cover them. Meanwhile, PCG falls behind on actual news, but instead puts more focus on copy+paste articles like guides we've seen the world over, on games that are months to a year old (it's like they aren't even aware that many YT users make walkthrough's and guides, making reading guides not as in depth or nearly as useful).

Their comments section for the most part is alright, but we made a vote a year and a half ago, which basically makes the comments section to allow free speech, while PCG heavily mods theirs (each article they post with anything related to politics, always ends up with a locked comments section, or heavy bans).

They lost their touch around the start of the mid 10's (we really need a better terminology for our current time frame), when they started taking on new staff and moderators. Since then, they've largely been more in for ads, click bait articles and spamming a Ubisoft style copy+paste approach to gaming news, to pad out their site and make it look like they've got something new going.

These days, you'll see them trying so hard to cover console like news, for a site that is meant to be the forefront of PC gaming news. They recently tried to cover an article on a GTA SA spiderman mod, trying to claim it's close as we're going to get to the PS4 game. Needless to say we all laughed at the editor (even on Twitter), for trying to suggest something so silly, let alone covering it. 

I'm all for mod coverage, but for real, I want in depth reviews, benchmarks, settings guides, and talks about the differences between the ports, like DF does and still remains as the one group that do that sort of thing. 

I hate them, because they aren't doing anything unique. They aren't wanting to try, and they are more about making click-bait crap and siding with EGS no matter how wrong they are or having their errors pointed out. They'll update their articles if a bit of news comes out, or a slight error, but their critical thought process is inherently flawed, and they refuse to see that, so they keep on going, like a defiant petulant child, who refuses to acknowledge their flawed thought process. 

All we want, are PC topics, PC benchmarks, PC modding, talks more of upcoming tech, and old tech that we once used. Instead we're left with recycled garbage and a refusal to change course. That's more or less why I decided to view DSOG more often, because they actually do cover mods, they cover benchmarks and settings, metrics of game performance etc. They actually do care about those things, and I champion them for it.

If PCG is to ever change, they need to let all their editors go, and hire some actual veterans, not wannabe vets that got old and basically lost their initial thought process, on what PC gaming actually is. I know there are plenty out there, who grew old and basically adopted a thought process, that isn't like PC gaming, but more of couch gaming, and a desire to simplify everything, but not every part of PC gaming has to be over simplified and cut back.

Sorry for the long wall, I've just had a hate for PCG for a few years now, and I want them to return to the way they once were. 

Lafiel said:
HoloDust said:

DF is only redeeming quality of EG, and honestly, they could probably go on their own if they hired some solid reviewers.

EG occasionally has good deep dive into some interesting topic, but mostly it's just shoddy reviews, SJW agenda, clickbaits and advertorials.

I see, so they are actually amazing, but snowflakes can't take opposing opinions and have to flee to their safe space.

Reminds me of Resetera. Cannot talk about Cyberpunk, without getting some SJ's into the mix, about not wanting to support CDPR, over two fired employees, and a wish to make a clearly dystopian world, a more pc one, which doesn't make any sense, because Cyberpunk is a Dystopian world, not a Utopian one. 

Sadly, the SJ's there have mods on their side, which results in a near completely one sided discussion and a rather large echo chamber of "agree with me or leave my thread" kind of people. Rather sad and twisted. 

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I personally think that gaming journalism has really improved since video streaming services, especially Youtube, became a factor.

Video journalism, like AVGN simply didn't exist before. GameTrailers and the thousands of channels that it spawned didn't exist before.
If you mean exclusively print gaming journalism, then it's part of the greater death of print media.



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Jumpin said:
I personally think that gaming journalism has really improved since video streaming services, especially Youtube, became a factor.

Video journalism, like AVGN simply didn't exist before. GameTrailers and the thousands of channels that it spawned didn't exist before.
If you mean exclusively print gaming journalism, then it's part of the greater death of print media.

That's the thing though with video journalism - GameTrailers was proper gaming publication, just in video format. If you were really into it, you knew who are Justin Speer, Michael Damiani, Daniel Bloodworth and the rest of the crew (and of course Shane as editor in chief), but if you were just an average gamer looking for review, you would watch concise and to the point review written by some of them, always narrated by Brandon, that resembled something right out of printed publication (whether paper or electronic).

It's what came after that (and even GT succumbed to that to a degree in later years), cult of YT personalities, mostly wannabe reviewers who, for different reasons, found enough audience that major publications in never ending race for yet another click started publishing all sort of clickbait crap, while review quality has become worse.



Chazore said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

I legit didn't know they existed. How long have they been around? I'll be reading them for a while instead of PCG. Also a site called explorminate is pretty damned good if you like 4X games. 

Also, I'm so godamned relieved to see you agreeing with me about PCG. I thought I was losing touch, and most people thought PCG was good or decent. But you are one of the biggest PC Gamers (no pun intended) on this site, and you hate it too. 

They lost their touch around the start of the mid 10's (we really need a better terminology for our current time frame), when they started taking on new staff and moderators. Since then, they've largely been more in for ads, click bait articles and spamming a Ubisoft style copy+paste approach to gaming news, to pad out their site and make it look like they've got something new going.

These days, you'll see them trying so hard to cover console like news, for a site that is meant to be the forefront of PC gaming news. They recently tried to cover an article on a GTA SA spiderman mod, trying to claim it's close as we're going to get to the PS4 game. Needless to say we all laughed at the editor (even on Twitter), for trying to suggest something so silly, let alone covering it. 

I'm all for mod coverage, but for real, I want in depth reviews, benchmarks, settings guides, and talks about the differences between the ports, like DF does and still remains as the one group that do that sort of thing. 

All we want, are PC topics, PC benchmarks, PC modding, talks more of upcoming tech, and old tech that we once used. Instead we're left with recycled garbage and a refusal to change course. That's more or less why I decided to view DSOG more often, because they actually do cover mods, they cover benchmarks and settings, metrics of game performance etc. They actually do care about those things, and I champion them for it.

If PCG is to ever change, they need to let all their editors go, and hire some actual veterans, not wannabe vets that got old and basically lost their initial thought process, on what PC gaming actually is. I know there are plenty out there, who grew old and basically adopted a thought process, that isn't like PC gaming, but more of couch gaming, and a desire to simplify everything, but not every part of PC gaming has to be over simplified and cut back.

Sorry for the long wall, I've just had a hate for PCG for a few years now, and I want them to return to the way they once were.

Yes, exactly! That coverage of a mod for GTA SA, just because Spiderman is PS4 exclusive is just juvenile! Who the heck does that? 

Yeah, a lot of their editors seem to pretty much just play the same handful of never ending team based shooters. People that write for a major website should be playing as many different genres as possible. "Been playing Team Fortress and Counterstrike for the last ten years. Currently spending an hour a night on Fortnite before going to bed at 9pm." is not an acceptable resume for writing about games. 

Honestly it sounds like PCG is suffering from the same decline that plagued IGN. They got to be so successful that they are synonymous with games, and now they don't really have to try. 



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Kotaku , polygon ,vice gaming, GameSpot are the worst of the worst now. Gaming new i get them on Twitter or youtubers. I dont give them clicks anymore.

I know from experience that the other three suck, but what's wrong with vice gaming? I've never even heard of them. 



Cerebralbore101 said:
Skeeuk said:

used to follow through thick and thin but its all downhill now. tbh ive not watched a proper video review for a long time now

Easy Allies is the old GameTrailers crew. They are the last bastion of video reviews. And damn good at it too!

ye i used to watch a few of easyallies reviews that voice of brandons is so nostalgic, Truth is imo the PS360Wii generation was my final full on attention gaming, I bought the ps4 aND x1 but that magic isnt there i think im older now kids are teenagers and i dont have the time anymore.

i guess you could say im more of a casual gamer lingering around on my PC and periodically booting up the ps4 pro. who knows mabey the ps5 will bring it all back...



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