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Don't get friend-zoned

If you are interested in her there is no “just staying friends“ option if you meet private.

You are a guy who is interested in her, you can't just tell your brain/heart that this ends now and that you are just friends.

Only meet her when needed from now on



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mZuzek said:

First, that's not true. Second,

The dude was talking about how "the guy has major self esteem issues" for allowing a girl that he likes to get what she wants, which is to be with someone else. I'm sorry to break it down to you, but girls aren't prizes there for the taking for men with high pride and self-esteem - they are actually people, as crazy as that might sound. To respect a woman's wishes isn't called having low self esteem, it's called being a decent person. Doing the opposite, is being a fucking dick. Period.

I think you're misrepresenting what gamingsoul said, he didn't state that respecting a woman's wishes is having low esteem. He said OP has self esteem issues and I can see why somebody would think that just reading the thread. The girl he is interested in hasn't asked him to get her a boyfriend but he just decides he will do it anyway, that shows some strange things are going on in his head, he just confessed his feelings to her a couple of days ago and now instead of just respecting her wishes, he goes far beyond in some kind of fake altruism to show how super nice he is. That does suggest he has self worth issues since he has decided to put his own happiness on hold and possibly inflict misery on himself....just to do something she never asked for. He seems to still feel far too strongly for her to actually respect her original wishes to just be friends because he can't just be friends right now.

To be clear, I don't think there is anything abnormal about his actions, I think millions of us have been in this situation. I doubt anything we can say will change his decisions because, well we all know we've been there and we didn't listen to the advice we solicited. I do think it's fine to try pointing out the mistakes he might be making and if having low self worth is something he struggles with, then it will make relationships difficult as well as life in general. 



Landale_Star said:
mZuzek said:

First, that's not true. Second,

The dude was talking about how "the guy has major self esteem issues" for allowing a girl that he likes to get what she wants, which is to be with someone else. I'm sorry to break it down to you, but girls aren't prizes there for the taking for men with high pride and self-esteem - they are actually people, as crazy as that might sound. To respect a woman's wishes isn't called having low self esteem, it's called being a decent person. Doing the opposite, is being a fucking dick. Period.

I think you're misrepresenting what gamingsoul said, he didn't state that respecting a woman's wishes is having low esteem. He said OP has self esteem issues and I can see why somebody would think that just reading the thread. The girl he is interested in hasn't asked him to get her a boyfriend but he just decides he will do it anyway, that shows some strange things are going on in his head, he just confessed his feelings to her a couple of days ago and now instead of just respecting her wishes, he goes far beyond in some kind of fake altruism to show how super nice he is. That does suggest he has self worth issues since he has decided to put his own happiness on hold and possibly inflict misery on himself....just to do something she never asked for. He seems to still feel far too strongly for her to actually respect her original wishes to just be friends because he can't just be friends right now.

To be clear, I don't think there is anything abnormal about his actions, I think millions of us have been in this situation. I doubt anything we can say will change his decisions because, well we all know we've been there and we didn't listen to the advice we solicited. I do think it's fine to try pointing out the mistakes he might be making and if having low self worth is something he struggles with, then it will make relationships difficult as well as life in general. 

Thanks couldn’t Have said it better.

sometimes you have to learn the hard way I know I did, but I wish someone had told me what I wrote maybe It could have made things easier for me. attraction is very natural you can tell when someone likes you almost after a few minutes, if someone doesn’tlike You, pleasing her as much as you can won’t change it, it will only bring you misery. And being friends with someone you like feels awful, so it’s loose loose.

Mzuzek your definition of women and love sound like they where taken from a soap opera, i’m Sorry but I see things very different, women also play the game,they want the most attractive man they can find, why do you thing most women dream of famous actors, because they are nice and comprehensive?



mZuzek said:
gamingsoul said:

Totally agree

couldn’t Believe what I was reading, this guy has major seft steem issues no wonder the girl rejected him, the worst part of it is that most likely no quality women will fall for a guy with such low self worth.

It's called "not being a fucking dick".

Opting to have a dick that isn't fucking is a choice. Not all subscribe to that newsletter though. There's nothing really wrong with a guy having self respect tbh, if a woman wants to have a pet guy as a backup plan that's cool if he is happy in that position, but survival of our species is based on males not being happy with that position.



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Ganoncrotch said:
mZuzek said:

It's called "not being a fucking dick".

Opting to have a dick that isn't fucking is a choice. Not all subscribe to that newsletter though. There's nothing really wrong with a guy having self respect tbh, if a woman wants to have a pet guy as a backup plan that's cool if he is happy in that position, but survival of our species is based on males not being happy with that position.

Lol that’s hilarious

some people here post some really cool comments



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mZuzek said:
Ganoncrotch said:

Opting to have a dick that isn't fucking is a choice. Not all subscribe to that newsletter though. There's nothing really wrong with a guy having self respect tbh, if a woman wants to have a pet guy as a backup plan that's cool if he is happy in that position, but survival of our species is based on males not being happy with that position.

Jesus, how many thousand years old are you?

That's 2 posts in this thread where you've replied to me with little more than name calling / insults do you really have so little to add to the discussion at hand?

Being an advocate for the ideals of being a nice guy to the point where you're not willing to go after your own desires is commendable but you have to acknowledge that in doing so you are turning away from your inbuilt nature to pass on your dna to the next generation. Do you not think it would be better for humanity going forward to have your offspring in it so that they could follow in your footsteps, you see my point as to how "being a nice friendly guy who doesn't wanna get his leg over" doesn't work in terms of going on to the future. Survival of the fittest and best of humanity includes the most primal survival instinct of wanting to breed and pass on your genes.



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mZuzek said:
Ganoncrotch said:

That's 2 posts in this thread where you've replied to me with little more than name calling / insults do you really have so little to add to the discussion at hand?

Being an advocate for the ideals of being a nice guy to the point where you're not willing to go after your own desires is commendable but you have to acknowledge that in doing so you are turning away from your inbuilt nature to pass on your dna to the next generation. Do you not think it would be better for humanity going forward to have your offspring in it so that they could follow in your footsteps, you see my point as to how "being a nice friendly guy who doesn't wanna get his leg over" doesn't work in terms of going on to the future. Survival of the fittest and best of humanity includes the most primal survival instinct of wanting to breed and pass on your genes.

Yeah, that's how it worked for humanity a few thousand years ago. Obviously people need to make kids if humanity is to survive, but... there exists a thing nowadays called a "society", and it allows us relative safety in knowing that humanity will live on without necessarily being disrespectful. And I mean, honestly, if humanity were to end because of people not having kids anymore, I'm not sure I'd be too bothered. Quite a peaceful end to a highly destructive race, and all that cliche stuff.

As for me personally, it makes sense I'd be turning away from those desires, because it's not in my nature at all. I've never felt compelled to get in a relationship, ever. I've never tried to flirt or had sex with a girl. Only time I ever even kissed a girl was just because she was drunk as hell and approached me, I didn't care so I let her do her thing. I'm not normal, and I know that - but I'm perfectly fine by myself. I feel like you're going to try to spin this into a "wow a 24-year-old virgin what a loser" argument, but trust me, I really don't care.

And despite being removed from this notion of having to find a girl, I can still have an opinion on such things, because that's how society works. As I said, all the healthy relationships I know started by healthy means, with people who were willing to open up with one another. Relationships built on unhealthy means are always unhealthy, and sooner or later they end in unhealthy ways. So, yeah, forgive me for believing that people can get together, and can "pass their DNA to the next generation", without being assholes.

So you have no experience yet you sit high and mighty on your high horse thinking you are the knight in shinning armor.  Least I have some fucking experience.  I can prob give better relationship advice than your ass even though I am a dick.



Funny people, have zero experience in love , sex and relationships , yet they come here and tell us how things should be done, walk the talk.



mZuzek said:

I mean, come on, one of y'all is arguing that Ka-pi should do this or that to get laid with the girl by any means for the survival of humanity, why am I even trying to discuss here?

I'm not saying for the survival of the species, I mean your own family line and that having a kid gives you a blank canvass to paint your beliefs onto so to raise a kid for the future to have your feelings on how they should treat others, I mean there are ways to do that without having a kid if you adopt or take on the care of a child of someone else and try to make sure they follow your life choices and explain to them in a way that they understand why your thoughts on life are good then they'll go on to do that in the future generation. that's why I'm saying your notion of "I don't wanna bone" is grand, but it would by default have to be a genetic trait which will be in the minority because those who hold that trait to the extreme will not have children and won't pass it down the lines.

Absolutely nothing wrong with being a 24 year old virgin btw! As long as you're happy that's all the matters in that regard, I'm sure there are a number of stiff socks in your room that might apply for asylum from there but they are socks so that's their problem, just make sure they're in a separate pile to the ones that go on your feet and everything is dandy.

I will say though, I do sort of agree with the people above who say that because of your lack of successful interactions in this area I would think your advice does come off as that of fiction from rom-coms featuring Hugh Grant rather than actual experiences of life, very rarely do sex based relationships work like they do in the movies, maybe some x rated movies on pornhub or w/e but not things like Big Bang and such where a girl remains a part of a guys life for 10 years while she bones everything else in the city, the reality of the Penny / Lenord relationship is that Lenord would have offed himself hearing her getting drilled by a queue of guys if he really felt that way towards her and really if all those guys knew anything about how close she lived to such an Ex they would insist she moves from where she was and not live directly across from them. I'm just saying TV =/= Real life, at the same time though... I don't think anyone elses experiences are going to exactly match up with someone elses either tbh, romance / sex are very different beasts for different people.



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mZuzek said:

I mean, come on, one of y'all is arguing that Ka-pi should do this or that to get laid with the girl by any means for the survival of humanity, why am I even trying to discuss here?

LOL.  I'll give ya this one.