Yes but sales can tell you not many really cares if it plays better on X or PC.  Majority of multiplat games usually sell more on Playstation (for now on this gen, not sure how next gen will play out).

Yes, I have the same feeling. Although I know it's not been too long since they started buying everyone.

Yes. I wouldn't say tops, but Death Stranding alone has been enough so far for PS. The game looks jaw dropping.

I agree. It's like yeah yeah we have everything PS5 will have and take this Halo here. Although Halo looks good, in my opinion, Death Stranding and the samurai game for PS4 would look more impressive as next gen than that Halo trailer.

The thought that crosses my mind is "why haven't they ever done this game before?"

I really think the $15 per month price of Gamepass Ultimate was the biggest thing to come out of the XB show. I know that doesn't appeal to everyone (I'm not a subscriber either), but it really shows how aggressive MS is going to be with their services. Frankly, even though we know very little about XCloud, I'm excited about it, because MS has made clear that they are not fucking around with their push into services and digital delivery.

For people like us, on a VG sales forum, this isn't the most fun thing to talk about. But, from a gaming business perspective, I think the shift to digital delivery is very interesting. The next several years will be full of changes, or at least attempts at changes.

You guys are optimistic :) I think PS5 will be $500 and Xbox anaconda $600 along with an cheap xbox probably priced at $350. With 7nm wafer costs, Navi 10 being 255mm2 and pulling 225W for 9,75TF I can't see them being any cheaper.

looks like the new consoles will out perform a PC

it depends on what the ballpark is for enthusiast grade PC. the more expensive the pc doesnt give better visuals as such its like diminished returns

eg 4k tv playing watchdogs 2 if you have a vega 64 etc and another pc x2 2080ti sli the extra 6-700£ wont give it jumps from high to ultra ultra ultra if you know what i mean.

what im excited about is the new consoles will finally be able to push those visuals 60fps if they can release a £449 box that does 4k 60fps with extremly good settings what would be the point in buying a £500 gpu what more can it get you?

Next Xbox wont be $600. Microsoft will take the lose at $500.

This. It's like how you can get EA Access on XBO and PS4 but you still have the option to just buy their games.

Can't believe it's taken me a whole day for this to click in my head, but there was no Forza in the Microsoft presentation (and no, I'm not counting the DLC).

I'm mean, the Motorsport series had grown stale for me so I was probably going to skip 8 if it had come this year, but if they've pushed it back to next year to launch in Project Scarlett then that reaffirms my belief that the motorsport series is more or less tech demo series for Microsoft to showcase thier hardware.

They focused on dlc for FM8. They just started FM9 development earlier this year.