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While I do miss the sheer traffic and spectacle of the old days, I sure don't miss the rampant trolling and bickering. Overall, vgchartz has undergone a vast transformation since I joined. The internet is still full of morons, but the style of the moderation and the overall ambiance of this place has evolved into something that works properly and doesn't really attract these, which is a first as far as forums go (in my experience). I would rather have better discussions than lots of discussions - if I had to choose.
We're not dead, which in itself is a fantastic achievement, most sites, and forums that lived past a decade are owned and run by huge corporate entities or companies or are simply tiny niche things for followers of specific games, books, or other phenomena. It's amazing we're still around, and I'm always happy when I see other veterans posting, I feel like I really know these people despite never having met them in real life.



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The downfall of this site were certain ban happy mods and the constant complaining from ninty fans. The removal of the sales graphs and charts.
For me personally what killed the forum aspect was the "official" Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft threads that lump all the discussions and news together. Threads get closed because what you want to talk about has already ever so slightly been mentioned in the official threads amongst another 100 topics running simultaneously. It's a cluster F.
Just my 2 pence.



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Ryuu96 said:
Serious_frusting said:

The downfall of this site were certain ban happy mods and the constant complaining from ninty fans. The removal of the sales graphs and charts.
For me personally what killed the forum aspect was the "official" Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft threads that lump all the discussions and news together. Threads get closed because what you want to talk about has already ever so slightly been mentioned in the official threads amongst another 100 topics running simultaneously. It's a cluster F.
Just my 2 pence.

Bold isn't true at all...

In fact in my entire history of being on this site I've never seen a thread locked because it was discussed in a Nation thread, Lol.

A lot of stuff discussed in Nation threads have dozens of comments in the Articles created on the same subject too. Users are clearly discussing the stuff in Articles still and not threads because nobody makes threads on the subject matters to begin with, Lol.

People have to actually make the threads first, one time it was Curl soloing all the thread creation, I made a lot of threads recently, it shouldn't be down to just a few people though, we've all got to chip in, there was a time where all 3 Nation threads were massively more popular than they are today and the forums were also thriving overall.

I used to make threads all the time and stopped for the very reason that they kept getting closed because those topics were "Already being discussed".



Nobody's perfect. I aint nobody!!!

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Mummelmann said:

While I do miss the sheer traffic and spectacle of the old days, I sure don't miss the rampant trolling and bickering. Overall, vgchartz has undergone a vast transformation since I joined. The internet is still full of morons, but the style of the moderation and the overall ambiance of this place has evolved into something that works properly and doesn't really attract these, which is a first as far as forums go (in my experience). I would rather have better discussions than lots of discussions - if I had to choose.
We're not dead, which in itself is a fantastic achievement, most sites, and forums that lived past a decade are owned and run by huge corporate entities or companies or are simply tiny niche things for followers of specific games, books, or other phenomena. It's amazing we're still around, and I'm always happy when I see other veterans posting, I feel like I really know these people despite never having met them in real life.

This is something I totally agree with. Interaction in this site has become mostly fantastic and cozy, if anything. Last couple of months has seen a dramatic reduction in threads created, though, but that's just an impression of mine. 



My bet with The_Liquid_Laser: I think the Switch won't surpass the PS2 as the best selling system of all time. If it does, I'll play a game of a list that The_Liquid_Laser will provide, I will have to play it for 50 hours or complete it, whatever comes first. 

Mummelmann said:

While I do miss the sheer traffic and spectacle of the old days, I sure don't miss the rampant trolling and bickering. Overall, vgchartz has undergone a vast transformation since I joined. The internet is still full of morons, but the style of the moderation and the overall ambiance of this place has evolved into something that works properly and doesn't really attract these, which is a first as far as forums go (in my experience). I would rather have better discussions than lots of discussions - if I had to choose.
We're not dead, which in itself is a fantastic achievement, most sites, and forums that lived past a decade are owned and run by huge corporate entities or companies or are simply tiny niche things for followers of specific games, books, or other phenomena. It's amazing we're still around, and I'm always happy when I see other veterans posting, I feel like I really know these people despite never having met them in real life.

This is why I continue to visit this site.  I’m not a huge fan of trolls and general spam.  A smaller forum means you actually get to know the people you’re talking to.  It doesn’t have to be a bad thing that there aren’t thousands of posts a day from thousands of people.  It’s actually the reason I’ve continued on this site.



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ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Serious_frusting said:

The downfall of this site were certain ban happy mods and the constant complaining from ninty fans. The removal of the sales graphs and charts.
For me personally what killed the forum aspect was the "official" Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft threads that lump all the discussions and news together. Threads get closed because what you want to talk about has already ever so slightly been mentioned in the official threads amongst another 100 topics running simultaneously. It's a cluster F.
Just my 2 pence.

Well i dont know about that, but the downfall and mass exodus of the PlayStation community here was cause by a official thread, not because it was created but because two mod decided to harass and annoy as much as they could people in it to the point half ps fans here just said fuck you and left.

Wow, when was that?



I can agree with obieslut that the former mod team would lock threads because of duplicates/outside nation/official threads but that must have been over 10 years ago



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JWeinCom said:
super_etecoon said:

Does anyone else delete most of their comments before they hit send? Some arguments just aren’t worth getting into. There was a time I sat in front of my computer for hours at a time with this site. Those days, especially because of smart phones, are long gone. If I’m at a computer for that long, it’s because I’m working.

Not most, but definitely more than a few times. Or just don't respond in general. Happened a few moments ago.

I dont but that rewards you with bans for things like "no shit sherlock"



 "I think people should define the word crap" - Kirby007

Join the Prediction League http://www.vgchartz.com/predictions

Instead of seeking to convince others, we can be open to changing our own minds, and seek out information that contradicts our own steadfast point of view. Maybe it’ll turn out that those who disagree with you actually have a solid grasp of the facts. There’s a slight possibility that, after all, you’re the one who’s wrong.

I agree that the nation threads seem to be a net negative. They'd be fine if they stuck only to discussions that aren't a big enough deal to warrant their own thread. But, as it is, most major pieces of platform specific news get a bunch of their discussion inside of the nation threads. The problem is that it is sometimes difficult to have a good discussion about a specific topic in those threads, because there are multiple topics running at once.  But, because there is discussion about a given topic happening in there, it likely leads to less interaction in the topic specific thread.

I think the nation threads are great for the relatively small number of users that spend a lot of time in them. But, for the rest of us, and certainly for any newcomers, they're sometimes not the greatest places to jump into a discussion. 

At least, that's how it feels to me.    



Incidentally, my impression is that as forum activity has slowed, article commenting activity has picked up. It hasn't picked up enough to offset the slowdown of the forums, but I feel like as a percentage of activity around here, article comments are noticeably up.