mZuzek said:
Well, I guess I can properly reply to this now... though, it's not the same stuff I'd have said a couple days ago. I think I'm watching the movie again this weekend, and that'll likely change my perspective on things, but over the last couple days I've given a lot of thought to it and I'm starting to come to terms with the portrayal of Rocket. You see, prior to watching Endgame I figured I'd watch a few movies to get in the mood, and those ended up being both Guardians of the Galaxy films and Infinity War, so I basically watched the full Guardians story up until this point. I figured it'd be nice to go into Endgame with them as my primary focus, because I wanted to see what would happen involving them, but what it really did in the end was creating expectations, and expectations always serve one single purpose: to disappoint. I started having expectations that things would happen like this or that, that characters would feel and act this or that way, and it's impossible for things to happen the way you imagine, especially when the movie hits you with an unexpected FIVE YEARS LATER early on. But, anyways. Let's try to get back into the mindset of whatever I was gonna try to say a couple days ago. I understand your point about these films not having room to give individual characters the spotlight, but then you go on and bring up the worst possible example in Doctor Strange, because he was massively important to the plot of both movies, to the point where he was being talked about even when he was dead. Yeah, sure in the final battle itself he doesn't do much, but he's still a key character who influences the story heavily. I don't mind the Guardians not being too involved in the battles, because even then let's be real, they don't have much to add to the fight - but I did mind how little they mattered in the end. It was disheartening to me, after all of the development these characters and relationships had over the two of their movies, to see them be dragged into this whole "larger" story only to bear no real impact on it - and in return, have the story impact them massively. I think that's the key point I was trying to make. Strange was dragged into this, but he affected the story greatly and left with no scars. Black Panther and Wakanda were brought into this too, and they weren't too relevant, but they still left unscathed. The Guardians of the Galaxy, though? They just show up, do nothing, and in the end are given massive consequences for something they barely had a hand in. It was disheartening to see. I'm still not okay with Thor being potentially part of the cast for Vol. 3. You say James Gunn can make it work, and I'm sure he can, but it still doesn't sit well with me. For one, what I always liked about Guardians was always how far removed from the MCU those movies were - they had nothing to do with anything else that was going on, and that's what made them awesome. I guess it's inevitable that after Infinity War and Endgame that couldn't remain being the case, but there is one other thing that defined this particular group of heroes and that's how... "normal" they are. None of them have insane superpowers or barely anything that's far above what a normal person can do, and that was always part of the charm. They always felt like just proper normal-ish people, who had to deal with their problems in normal-ish ways, and it just couldn't possibly be more unfitting to have the 'god of lightning' join them. It just takes all the GotG out of GotG, in my opinion. But while I do still hold some hope that Thor isn't gonna be actually relevant in Vol. 3, I am massively concerned about Gamora's situation. It was bad enough that she had to die outside of a Guardians movie, especially in the way it happened, but they just made matters far worse by bringing past Gamora into the universe. I mean... how morbid is that, really? They're gonna be looking for her, trying to get her back into the team and restore the original status quo, but she's a different person who's lived different things. It doesn't change the fact that the 'real' Gamora is dead. To think that they're just gonna pretend she never died by bringing in a sort-of 'clone' of her, well, it really creeps me out and I hope it doesn't happen. If anything, after these movies I almost feel like Rocket might just be at a point now where he can fill in Gamora's shoes as the "mom" of the group, given everything he's been through and the different attitude he had in Endgame, and if that's the case, then I'm completely fine with his portrayal here. But, we'll see. |
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