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thismeintiel on 22 April 2019
jason1637 said:
thismeintiel said:

I guess that makes sense.  Personally, I would spend the extra $50 and get the 4K drive, and all the benefits that comes with.  Anyway, you would think with them keeping their sales of $249 for the regular S SKUs going, $199 would have been a much better price.  As it is, this thing isn't even going to cause a blip when it releases.  It's not even in the Top 1,500 Hourly for video games on Amazon.

If I didnt have a Xbox One already I'd probably would get the digital edition if it were $50 cheaper because I only have like 6 physical games and i own them digitally also anyway. I rarely buy physical games and I know lots of people who are the same.

Like I mentioned, if they were going with $249, knowing full well they were still selling their XBO S SKUs for the same price (and probably will for the foreseeable future, so the sales don't plummet) a 4TB HDD was a necessity to justify the purchase.  Right now, you can pay less for the drive one and still go all digital. Maybe save the drive for 4K movies and playing B/C Xbox and 360 games.  I don't know what the marketing department was thinking on this one.  They even lacked the foresight to not name it the XBO SAD.



 

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Keybladewielder on 22 April 2019

The Switch is just a beast at this point



Acevil on 23 April 2019
Marth said:
Seems like the leaker on era got into trouble with the NPD legal department and his post was deleted...

We still get magicporks, so that is a good sign. Even if that data isn't 100% compared to the actual raw numbers.



 

Pionner on 23 April 2019

Will all due respect, benji has to be the biggest baby ever. Just because someone is offering a different perspective on sales doesn't make that a console war post. Every single month we were all told "everybody is doing well" when PS4 was first in sales. Now all of a sudden everybody is NOT doing well when Switch is first? SilverX provided a very good summary on why PS4's sales are actually great. Even Xbox 1. Benji and other posters disagreed. That bullshit "everybody is doing well" thread meme doesn't apply anymore it looks like. The only fanboys in that thread are the people bothered by that post. And as usual benji tactic, he mentions wanting a self ban but never actual goes trough with it. It's similar to somebody crying to get attention and make people feel sorry for them.



Formerly ilovegirls69  :(

Pionner on 23 April 2019
Marth said:
Pionner said:
Will all due respect, benji has to be the biggest baby ever. Just because someone is offering a different perspective on sales doesn't make that a console war post. Every single month we were all told "everybody is doing well" when PS4 was first in sales. Now all of a sudden everybody is NOT doing well when Switch is first? SilverX provided a very good summary on why PS4's sales are actually great. Even Xbox 1. Benji and other posters disagreed. That bullshit "everybody is doing well" thread meme doesn't apply anymore it looks like. The only fanboys in that thread are the people bothered by that post. And as usual benji tactic, he mentions wanting a self ban but never actual goes trough with it. It's similar to somebody crying to get attention and make people feel sorry for them.

Wrong website

I'm not a member of resetera. These NPD threads often crosspost information from there. So i wanted to point out something from that thread.

Formerly ilovegirls69  :(

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MasonADC on 23 April 2019
Pionner said:
Will all due respect, benji has to be the biggest baby ever. Just because someone is offering a different perspective on sales doesn't make that a console war post. Every single month we were all told "everybody is doing well" when PS4 was first in sales. Now all of a sudden everybody is NOT doing well when Switch is first? SilverX provided a very good summary on why PS4's sales are actually great. Even Xbox 1. Benji and other posters disagreed. That bullshit "everybody is doing well" thread meme doesn't apply anymore it looks like. The only fanboys in that thread are the people bothered by that post. And as usual benji tactic, he mentions wanting a self ban but never actual goes trough with it. It's similar to somebody crying to get attention and make people feel sorry for them.

Pa4 had a pretty size able decrease yoy, which means different things to different people. I would never say that that is a great performance.  



Pionner on 23 April 2019
MasonADC said:
Pionner said:
Will all due respect, benji has to be the biggest baby ever. Just because someone is offering a different perspective on sales doesn't make that a console war post. Every single month we were all told "everybody is doing well" when PS4 was first in sales. Now all of a sudden everybody is NOT doing well when Switch is first? SilverX provided a very good summary on why PS4's sales are actually great. Even Xbox 1. Benji and other posters disagreed. That bullshit "everybody is doing well" thread meme doesn't apply anymore it looks like. The only fanboys in that thread are the people bothered by that post. And as usual benji tactic, he mentions wanting a self ban but never actual goes trough with it. It's similar to somebody crying to get attention and make people feel sorry for them.

Pa4 had a pretty size able decrease yoy, which means different things to different people. I would never say that that is a great performance.  

PS4 has been at full MSRP. We all know Sony hasn't dropped the price or do deals for PS4. With this known and talk of PS4 Xbox 1 being down this year, PS4 sales results is in fact great performance.

Formerly ilovegirls69  :(

Nuvendil on 23 April 2019
Pionner said:
Will all due respect, benji has to be the biggest baby ever. Just because someone is offering a different perspective on sales doesn't make that a console war post. Every single month we were all told "everybody is doing well" when PS4 was first in sales. Now all of a sudden everybody is NOT doing well when Switch is first? SilverX provided a very good summary on why PS4's sales are actually great. Even Xbox 1. Benji and other posters disagreed. That bullshit "everybody is doing well" thread meme doesn't apply anymore it looks like. The only fanboys in that thread are the people bothered by that post. And as usual benji tactic, he mentions wanting a self ban but never actual goes trough with it. It's similar to somebody crying to get attention and make people feel sorry for them.

Everyone was doing well when PS4 and Xbone weren't down 30%.  Which is what Benji explained.  And there were plenty of months the last two years when Switch  was leading the pack that all three were said to be doing well.  I do think it was presumptuous for him to respond to a post he cannot see since he has that guy set to ignore, but that post was pretty strong spin.  While he is right that Sony is being conservative with pushing PS4, they've been that way for a while now unless a big release is coming out.  And MS going firesale and bundle crazy has been a constant since 2014.  So while the factors he stated were true, they have been true since before the decline this year.  And thus framing those things like new factors that relate specifically to this period is disingenuous.  These declines aren't disastrous, but they are normal.  Great would be a defying of expectations.

Oh and Xbox One sales are objectively not great.  They weren't great very often before, they really aren't great now.

Now let's not further derail the thread with antagonizing people who are not registered here and cannot defend themselves.  That tends to get toxic fast.



Replicant on 23 April 2019
Nuvendil said:
Pionner said:
Will all due respect, benji has to be the biggest baby ever. Just because someone is offering a different perspective on sales doesn't make that a console war post. Every single month we were all told "everybody is doing well" when PS4 was first in sales. Now all of a sudden everybody is NOT doing well when Switch is first? SilverX provided a very good summary on why PS4's sales are actually great. Even Xbox 1. Benji and other posters disagreed. That bullshit "everybody is doing well" thread meme doesn't apply anymore it looks like. The only fanboys in that thread are the people bothered by that post. And as usual benji tactic, he mentions wanting a self ban but never actual goes trough with it. It's similar to somebody crying to get attention and make people feel sorry for them.

Everyone was doing well when PS4 and Xbone weren't down 30%. Which is what Benji explained. And there were plenty of months the last two years when Switch  was leading the pack that all three were said to be doing well. I do think it was presumptuous for him to respond to a post he cannot see since he has that guy set to ignore, but that post was pretty strong spin. While he is right that Sony is being conservative with pushing PS4, they've been that way for a while now unless a big release is coming out. And MS going firesale and bundle crazy has been a constant since 2014. So while the factors he stated were true, they have been true since before the decline this year. And thus framing those things like new factors that relate specifically to this period is disingenuous. These declines aren't disastrous, but they are normal. Great would be a defying of expectations.

Oh and Xbox One sales are objectively not great. They weren't great very often before, they really aren't great now.

Bold: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the XB1 decline quite small? I get that you don't think its sales were that great in the first place but I think it's having quite a healthy life this late in the gen.

XB1 (March)
2014: 258,000
2015: 229,000
2016: 242,000
2017: 200,000
2018: 299,000
2019: 221,000

PS4 is down 29.7% from its peak March but I wouldn't necessarily go out of my way to emphasize how I think that it "isn't great" for a console to pull 253,000 in the US in its 6th March (maybe Shadow knows how many consoles have had a better 6th March).

PS4 (March)
2014: 280,000
2015: 330,000
2016: 330,000
2017: 360,000
2018: 354,000
2019: 253,000



jason1637 on 23 April 2019
Replicant said:
Nuvendil said:

Everyone was doing well when PS4 and Xbone weren't down 30%. Which is what Benji explained. And there were plenty of months the last two years when Switch  was leading the pack that all three were said to be doing well. I do think it was presumptuous for him to respond to a post he cannot see since he has that guy set to ignore, but that post was pretty strong spin. While he is right that Sony is being conservative with pushing PS4, they've been that way for a while now unless a big release is coming out. And MS going firesale and bundle crazy has been a constant since 2014. So while the factors he stated were true, they have been true since before the decline this year. And thus framing those things like new factors that relate specifically to this period is disingenuous. These declines aren't disastrous, but they are normal. Great would be a defying of expectations.

Oh and Xbox One sales are objectively not great. They weren't great very often before, they really aren't great now.

Bold: Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the XB1 decline quite small? I get that you don't think its sales were that great in the first place but I think it's having quite a healthy life this late in the gen.

XB1 (March)
2014: 258,000
2015: 229,000
2016: 242,000
2017: 200,000
2018: 299,000
2019: 221,000

PS4 is down 29.7% from its peak March but I wouldn't necessarily go out of my way to emphasize how I think that it "isn't great" for a console to pull 253,000 in the US in its 6th March (maybe Shadow knows how many consoles have had a better 6th March).

PS4 (March)
2014: 280,000
2015: 330,000
2016: 330,000
2017: 360,000
2018: 354,000
2019: 253,000

Yeah im interested in seeing how consoles uaully sell on their 6th year. @Shadow1980 If you have any numbers/graphics regarding 6th year sales for previous generation that would be appreciated.