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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Hardware 16 March 2019

Bofferbrauer2 said:
Geralt99 said:
By the end of the year, switch will beat ps4 by a million or 2 which is nothing special considering the popularity and portability factors of switch and the age of ps4.

That would be true if everything stays at the current speed.

But while Switch should accelerate during Summer and boost in Fall with all the announced game releases during that period, and then go into overdrive during the holiday season with Pokemon and probably Animal Crossing this year, PS4 will mostly slowly slide down in sales, even with a 50$ pricecut, and  just boost a lot for Black Friday.

In the end, the difference should be more around 5M, if not even more than that.

A permenent price cut around the world would do wonders for the ps4.

Its selling so well without a price cut.

It would sell way more with a price cut .

I still believe ps4 will be behind switch by 2 million at best.



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Geralt99 said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

That would be true if everything stays at the current speed.

But while Switch should accelerate during Summer and boost in Fall with all the announced game releases during that period, and then go into overdrive during the holiday season with Pokemon and probably Animal Crossing this year, PS4 will mostly slowly slide down in sales, even with a 50$ pricecut, and  just boost a lot for Black Friday.

In the end, the difference should be more around 5M, if not even more than that.

A permenent price cut around the world would do wonders for the ps4.

Its selling so well without a price cut.

It would sell way more with a price cut .

I still believe ps4 will be behind switch by 2 million at best.

Remove 10-15k from this weeks sales then, as it's heavily discounted in Japan. And yet the PS4 still only reaches 32k with big releases (Division 2, One Piece World seeker, second week of DMC 5)

In other words, a pricecut would certainly help, but not to the extent you think.



Rob5VGC said:
Japan has been the reason why Switch has been selling more than PS4 for weeks this year. It is the difference maker. Take it out or make the Switch numbers equal with PS4 and PS4 would be outselling it every week.

Note: I don't care for the PS4. Just stating the obvious that this is more impressive for PS4 with how old it is.

What about NA ? It has been a difference maker too thus far. The Switch won the first 2 NPD months quite easily.

Meanwhile Sony only have the European territories to sit on and make the difference. (and that's not even mentionning that we have no clear way of knowing the actual hardware numbers for Europe than just algorhythm, could be overtracked or undertracked, who knows ?)



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Rob5VGC said:
Japan has been the reason why Switch has been selling more than PS4 for weeks this year. It is the difference maker. Take it out or make the Switch numbers equal with PS4 and PS4 would be outselling it every week.

Note: I don't care for the PS4. Just stating the obvious that this is more impressive for PS4 with how old it is.

Same can be said for Europe. In fact, the difference is even bigger in Europe, and you could argue it's the anomaly since in America Switch sells better as well.



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They have been very close since the beggining of the year, with Switch mostly in front. Not to shabby of PS4 still holding on in 6th year, switch doing good even outside of relevant releases.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

2018 thru March 17
PS4-3.38 million
NSW-2.33 million

2018 total
PS4-18.00 million
NSW-16.33 million

2019 thru March 16
PS4-2.70 million (-20.1%)
NSW-2.98 million (+27.9%)

2019 total using current YoY %
PS4-14.38 million
NSW-20.89 million

I have a hard time imagining PS4 being so close to NSW overall this year.



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Bofferbrauer2 said:
Geralt99 said:
By the end of the year, switch will beat ps4 by a million or 2 which is nothing special considering the popularity and portability factors of switch and the age of ps4.

That would be true if everything stays at the current speed.

But while Switch should accelerate during Summer and boost in Fall with all the announced game releases during that period, and then go into overdrive during the holiday season with Pokemon and probably Animal Crossing this year, PS4 will mostly slowly slide down in sales, even with a 50$ pricecut, and  just boost a lot for Black Friday.

In the end, the difference should be more around 5M, if not even more than that.

5M seems less likely than 2M difference.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Chrizum said:
Rob5VGC said:
Japan has been the reason why Switch has been selling more than PS4 for weeks this year. It is the difference maker. Take it out or make the Switch numbers equal with PS4 and PS4 would be outselling it every week.

Note: I don't care for the PS4. Just stating the obvious that this is more impressive for PS4 with how old it is.

Same can be said for Europe. In fact, the difference is even bigger in Europe, and you could argue it's the anomaly since in America Switch sells better as well.

I guess he was seeing Japan as more of difference maker because of the percentual gap there is bigger than USA or Europe even if the total difference for Europe is bigger.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:

That would be true if everything stays at the current speed.

But while Switch should accelerate during Summer and boost in Fall with all the announced game releases during that period, and then go into overdrive during the holiday season with Pokemon and probably Animal Crossing this year, PS4 will mostly slowly slide down in sales, even with a 50$ pricecut, and  just boost a lot for Black Friday.

In the end, the difference should be more around 5M, if not even more than that.

5M seems less likely than 2M difference.

I dont think so based on their current YoY performances up to this point.



When the herd loses its way, the shepard must kill the bull that leads them astray.