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Should Tulsi Gabbard at the debate stage?

Tulsi for President! 6 28.57%
 
Sure, we need her voice against war. 10 47.62%
 
No, her views are damaging! 2 9.52%
 
Not sure we need to hear her. 0 0%
 
Who is this again? 3 14.29%
 
Total:21

As someone who is not a Democrat or a Trump supporter, I can say this. If Tulsi doesn't get the nomination, the Democrats will lose in 2020. When you look at the field of Democrats who are currently running, this is what we're seeing. We're seeing candidates who are using identity politics as a platform which is very unpopular amongst most voters. We're seeing candidates who advocate for open borders which is very unpopular amongst most voters. We're seeing candidates who continue to push the Trump/Russia collusion narrative, which most of the country is getting sick of at this point. Tulsi is not doing any of these things. There is something else that makes her stand out amongst other Democrats. There's dissolution with Trump amongst libertarians. While libertarians generally disagreed with Trump on most issues, most of the libertarian support he did get in 2016 came from people who voted for him on foreign policy alone. He promised to end the wars. While he is making good on his promise in Korea (for the most part), he seems to be backtracking on his promises in the Middle East. Since Tulsi is an anti-war advocate, she can win that libertarian support that Trump got in 2016 even if libertarians disagree with her on most of everything else. No other Democrat can do that. You either have Democrats who will continue the status quo with foreign policy or are not talking about it. Since none of them advocate for smaller government or less spending, no libertarian would ever vote for any of them. They'll with vote for the LP candidate or just stay home.

The only way Trump could lose in 2020 to anybody other than Tulsi is if a major war breaks out or if the economy crashes. Other than that, he's going to win if she's not nominated.



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I would like to donate but im not an american citizen(so im not able to) so yeah i just keep rooting for her.



Jon-Erich said:
As someone who is not a Democrat or a Trump supporter, I can say this. If Tulsi doesn't get the nomination, the Democrats will lose in 2020. When you look at the field of Democrats who are currently running, this is what we're seeing. We're seeing candidates who are using identity politics as a platform which is very unpopular amongst most voters. We're seeing candidates who advocate for open borders which is very unpopular amongst most voters. We're seeing candidates who continue to push the Trump/Russia collusion narrative, which most of the country is getting sick of at this point. Tulsi is not doing any of these things. There is something else that makes her stand out amongst other Democrats. There's dissolution with Trump amongst libertarians. While libertarians generally disagreed with Trump on most issues, most of the libertarian support he did get in 2016 came from people who voted for him on foreign policy alone. He promised to end the wars. While he is making good on his promise in Korea (for the most part), he seems to be backtracking on his promises in the Middle East. Since Tulsi is an anti-war advocate, she can win that libertarian support that Trump got in 2016 even if libertarians disagree with her on most of everything else. No other Democrat can do that. You either have Democrats who will continue the status quo with foreign policy or are not talking about it. Since none of them advocate for smaller government or less spending, no libertarian would ever vote for any of them. They'll with vote for the LP candidate or just stay home.

The only way Trump could lose in 2020 to anybody other than Tulsi is if a major war breaks out or if the economy crashes. Other than that, he's going to win if she's not nominated.

Mostly agree. Some democrats seem to think she's unelectable, which is quite odd to me given that she seems to have a wide appeal and really attempting to build bridges. The only thing is that the media either seems to ignore her or strangely even smear her somewhat. But I really don't think they hold much power and influence these days anyway. There also seems to be a clique of a few hardcore "resist" folk on the left who seem to think she's a Russian agent or something. LMAO. But that's a pretty tiny minority I would think. And or course, there are those hardcore right wingers who are scared to death of anything resembling socialist policies and devout MAGA types that are just going to vote Trump anyway. But beyond these fringes, I think she definitely draws in (or potentially could) bring in many more moderate voters, and not just on the left.

If the democrats are serious about beating Trump in '20, Tulsi is the dark horse candidate to do so. You could maybe argue Bernie, but he might be a little too far left for some. And Trump/GOP will run with the "OMG Socialist!" smears (even though that's not really what Bernie is). He's also getting up there in age and by that merit alone, might not imspire a ton of enthusiasm. He's also left a bit of a bad taste in my mouth by ultimately supporting Hillary Clinton despite basically getting colluded against. You've also got an outside chance of the "safe" or establishment DNC candidate, Biden, though I would think he's maybe a bit too on the centrist side for hardcore lefties, not to mention he's getting some heat for being a little too "touchy feely" lately. Don't get me started on the other 15 or whatever candidates. They don't have a prayer..

Tulsi may not be hugely popular among Democrats now, but if she becomes the candidate to go up against Trump, do people really think the left is going to stay home on election day, or even more laughable, vote Trump because they're not crazy about her or don't know much about her? Let's be real, at this point, most Democrats and many liberals in general just want Trump gone by any means necessary, they'll vote for a monkey over him if said monkey has a (D) next to his name. Most of these people don't give a crap. 

And then, at the same time, she probably has the most appeal to the independents, Libertarians like you said, and even a few conservatives, based off what I've seen. I do know that as a somewhat rogue center-lefty with some Libertarian sensibilities, she's the only candidate out of like the 18 I can tolerate, besides Yang and maybe Bernie. So she'll get the people on the left by default + reign in some of the more independent/moderates. 



 

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I donated to her. I've never donated to a politician before at any level. She's the best candidate to me. If Bernie gets the nomination instead, I'll vote for him. If it's really anyone else, I'll probably write-in or vote for a third-party.



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Wman1996 said:
I donated to her. I've never donated to a politician before at any level. She's the best candidate to me. If Bernie gets the nomination instead, I'll vote for him. If it's really anyone else, I'll probably write-in or vote for a third-party.

Only vote for a third candidate if you are okay with the Dem or Trump winning and you don't want your vote to count.  If that is the case than thats fine too.  

Just don't complain when the dem or Trump wins.  You willingly chose to not be counted and that is your right.