The point of impeachment and hopefully conviction is to not reward a piece of human garbage who permanently damaged a country and killed 400000 people with a huge pension.

I must repeat: The BLM protests were to bring attention to systemic racism. Their goal was to stop the inherently bigoted idea that black men in particular are more dangerous - something that appears to be an intrinsically widespread ideal across the US - and the subsequent added violence that comes with unnecessary force used against black men that can result in death. Their intentions were to stop violence, and their protests contained some acts of incidental violence that went against the grain. Whether the rioters and looters were a part of BLM or not is irrelevant, the BLM protests were organized to be peaceful protests. any time you get that many people together with such an incendiary unifying theme, there will be heat.

The DC hostile takeover was not done to end violence or for any semblance of social justice, it was a terrorist organization that violently opposed a democratically decided election and intended to scare the establishment into compliance. Their violence was a direct result of their plans.

If you honestly think these two are the same regardless of context or intent, then you might need to accept that you're either ignorant or bigoted. Either you don't understand how law works (Criminal intent causing violence is a far more serious charge than incidental violence or accidental harm), or you're being disingenuous because you for some reason think that systemic racism isn't real (it is) or that somehow Biden stole the election (He didn't). Either way, it's funny seeing the arguments because I've never seen an issue that was so cut and dry and plainly obvious be so deliberately misconstrued.

Abortion? There are arguments to be had on both sides and there is no right answer. There's plenty of discussion to be had concerning this topic. Euthanasia? Capitol Punishment? Religious freedom or restrictions? All topics that have very compelling arguments on both sides regardless of what side you chose. I have my opinions on all of them but concede that my opinions on the matter are in fact opinions and not solid, undeniable fact.

But this current issue with BLM and Antifa and the capital riots and MAGA folks and Liberals? It's so disgustingly one-sided that I genuinely do not see how people can fall for it. I do not understand how people can be like 'oh systemic racism isn't a problem' despite the many, MANY examples of it cropping up in our daily lives. Despite actual stats and papers being written on the topic by sociologists. Despite it being clear as day. Maybe it's not as blatant as the KKK lynching people, but it's so clearly obvious to anyone who's actually paying attention or specializing in the field. I don't know how you can have people who say Biden stole the election or that there was voter fraud just because they didn't like the results? How could anyone trust a thing Trump says when he lies and makes shit up all the time and clearly has no idea what the fuck he's talking about.

I get that some people like things the way they were. Nostalgia is a powerful drug for sure. I get that things used to be simpler and change is scary. I get that it's weird for some of you to see trans people as real people and two dudes kissing makes you uncomfortable. Nostalgia is powerful and change is scary. This is true but you can't base your entire worldview on the false idea that things were better in the past by simple virtue of it being simpler. The reality of the world is far more complicated than that. We understand a lot more about psychology now than we did 70 years ago, we know a lot more about biology and chemistry, we have far more perspective and far better technology now. Things are objectively better now for a wider group of people for many, many reasons.

Stop trying to slow our progress. Stop resisting change. Stop acting like things are worse when people of colour want to be treated better. Stop pretending the world is magically perfect because we can't arbitrarily get away with prejudice. You can't pretend systemic racism doesn't exist just because there aren't laws to encourage it anymore. The real world is far more complicated than that and requires a lot more introspection and investigation.

there's a reason I do not respect the MAGA movement. They're either completely ignorant of the facts, laws, and reality of the situation they got themselves into or they just don't care and would rather things be like it was in the past, when bigotry was more rampant instead of subtle, and they could get away with using racial or sexual slurs. Ignorant or malicious. One or the other.

And I do not understand how, in a world where almost everyone has infinite access to the world's collective knowledge at their fingertip, that someone could still delude themselves into believing with the MAGA folk do. It feels to me like you're all so convinced of your own delusion that you're like flat earthers that went to the ISS and somehow still don't believe the world is an oblong spheroid despite literally seeing it with your own eyes. How are we so divided? How do people completely misrepresent reality? Why is it somehow so easy for some people to outright deny facts and logic, then spout nonsense like 'facts don't care about your feelings' with absolute certainty and a complete and utter lack of self-awareness.

Unfortunately, it seems that the president's only lose their pension if they are removed from office through the impeachment process. Because Trump will be out of office by the time the Senate considers removal, Trump will keep his pension under current law unless the courts take a fringe interpretation of the Constitution (which seems unlikely)

We'll see how it plays out. The courts in the US have done wilder things. I guess it's up to the tenacity of lawyers and democrats how it ends. They have power now, they just need to use it. They can even write new laws and amendments to enact justice.

If Trump gets impeached, then he can't run for any form of elective office (in the US, at least) ever again. In other words, Trump 2024 will be dead before it even gets off the ground, unless he tries to set up Ivanka to run as his puppet president.

As for the point of the process, well, it's to get a clearly corrupt president out of office. Sure, the two-thirds of the senate bar is a high one to clear, but it's not impossible; Nixon resigned because all the evidence suggested any such vote would have gone about 85-15 against him, for instance.

What is this systemic racism you speak of?

Ah, thanks, I missed the second part of the process. It seemed impeachment does nothing since he already got impeached last time. Just the first step then to actually getting somewhere.

Ever heard of the internet, big source of information
https://www.businessinsider.com/us-systemic-racism-in-charts-graphs-data-2020-6

And I do not understand how, in a world where almost everyone has infinite access to the world's collective knowledge at their fingertip, that someone could still delude themselves into believing with the MAGA folk do. It feels to me like you're all so convinced of your own delusion that you're like flat earthers that went to the ISS and somehow still don't believe the world is an oblong spheroid despite literally seeing it with your own eyes. How are we so divided? How do people completely misrepresent reality? Why is it somehow so easy for some people to outright deny facts and logic, then spout nonsense like 'facts don't care about your feelings' with absolute certainty and a complete and utter lack of self-awareness.