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vivster said:
EricHiggin said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
There is still a realistic chance for the Democrats to win the Senate before President Biden. Can't wait what the Republicans are gonna pull to hold on to that.

If there were ever a time when Dems should have full control over Gov, it's right now.

Yeah, because Mitch is going to block any covid relief bill for the people like he's doing for half a year now, leading to the death of thousands of Americans and thus screwing the people even more than they already are right now. He's really doing everything in his power to earn his nickname of "Reaper"...

Yup. No person in their right mind would sail Titanic below her full speed. Headlines.

The Titanic is actually a hilariously apt metaphor for how Democrats and Republicans work.

To prevent collision Republicans would rather melt all icebergs than ever slow down, while the Democrats would rather choose a different route far away from any icebergs. One of those policies is clearly superior to the other. And when the ship crashed the Republicans will blame the Democrats for not letting them melt enough icebergs.

In this metaphor the icebergs are both the US population and literal icebergs.

That's one side of the coin. The Rep outlook is more along the lines of the movie itself. Every side has their own viewpoint and to each their own.



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EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
EricHiggin said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
There is still a realistic chance for the Democrats to win the Senate before President Biden. Can't wait what the Republicans are gonna pull to hold on to that.

If there were ever a time when Dems should have full control over Gov, it's right now.

Yeah, because Mitch is going to block any covid relief bill for the people like he's doing for half a year now, leading to the death of thousands of Americans and thus screwing the people even more than they already are right now. He's really doing everything in his power to earn his nickname of "Reaper"...

Yup. No person in their right mind would sail Titanic below her full speed. Headlines.

The Titanic is actually a hilariously apt metaphor for how Democrats and Republicans work.

To prevent collision Republicans would rather melt all icebergs than ever slow down, while the Democrats would rather choose a different route far away from any icebergs. One of those policies is clearly superior to the other. And when the ship crashed the Republicans will blame the Democrats for not letting them melt enough icebergs.

In this metaphor the icebergs are both the US population and literal icebergs.

That's one side of the coin. The Rep outlook is more along the lines of the movie itself. Every side has their own viewpoint and to each their own.

Different viewpoints are great and all but catering to a tiny minority is a bad viewpoint to have in a democracy.



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EricHiggin said:

That's one side of the coin. The Rep outlook is more along the lines of the movie itself. Every side has their own viewpoint and to each their own.

Except that's wrong. There are right and wrong answers here. A viewpoint or opinion is fine to have, but it doesn't supercede facts or reason. An 'opinion' is that Marvel is better than DC. Human rights and laws and science aren't a matter of opinion. People should be educated, not dictated strictly by emotion.



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EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
EricHiggin said:
Bofferbrauer2 said:
EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
There is still a realistic chance for the Democrats to win the Senate before President Biden. Can't wait what the Republicans are gonna pull to hold on to that.

If there were ever a time when Dems should have full control over Gov, it's right now.

Yeah, because Mitch is going to block any covid relief bill for the people like he's doing for half a year now, leading to the death of thousands of Americans and thus screwing the people even more than they already are right now. He's really doing everything in his power to earn his nickname of "Reaper"...

Yup. No person in their right mind would sail Titanic below her full speed. Headlines.

The Titanic is actually a hilariously apt metaphor for how Democrats and Republicans work.

To prevent collision Republicans would rather melt all icebergs than ever slow down, while the Democrats would rather choose a different route far away from any icebergs. One of those policies is clearly superior to the other. And when the ship crashed the Republicans will blame the Democrats for not letting them melt enough icebergs.

In this metaphor the icebergs are both the US population and literal icebergs.

That's one side of the coin. The Rep outlook is more along the lines of the movie itself. Every side has their own viewpoint and to each their own.

So you're saying they are sinking the ship, but selling it as a love affair?

True, that's a pretty great analogy for the Republicans.



Runa216 said:
EricHiggin said:

That's one side of the coin. The Rep outlook is more along the lines of the movie itself. Every side has their own viewpoint and to each their own.

Except that's wrong. There are right and wrong answers here. A viewpoint or opinion is fine to have, but it doesn't supercede facts or reason. An 'opinion' is that Marvel is better than DC. Human rights and laws and science aren't a matter of opinion. People should be educated, not dictated strictly by emotion.

I don't see why it's wrong to be fine with people in general having their own opinion's, in which you stated is fine to have, so then are you saying that Reps wouldn't see it that way? If they do, and they are free to their own opinions, like everyone should be, I don't see what's wrong about what was said. Now you can make a separate argument about facts, but factually, for example, if everyone get's immunized for something that impacts everyone, that should be best for everyone, though we still don't force people to do that, because of their beliefs and opinions and right to choose. Just because something may be considered a fact, doesn't automatically make it right for everyone.



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vivster said:
EricHiggin said:

That's one side of the coin. The Rep outlook is more along the lines of the movie itself. Every side has their own viewpoint and to each their own.

Different viewpoints are great and all but catering to a tiny minority is a bad viewpoint to have in a democracy.

The smartest/most efficient of us, are a tiny minority. I'd think catering to them wouldn't be the worst idea. Give them more resources and keep them more free of politics, within reason of course. The things that the majority of that minority typically end up doing for everyone are worth it.





Soundwave said:

This made me laugh a whole lot more than it should have. 



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EricHiggin said:
vivster said:
EricHiggin said:

That's one side of the coin. The Rep outlook is more along the lines of the movie itself. Every side has their own viewpoint and to each their own.

Different viewpoints are great and all but catering to a tiny minority is a bad viewpoint to have in a democracy.

The smartest/most efficient of us, are a tiny minority. I'd think catering to them wouldn't be the worst idea. Give them more resources and keep them more free of politics, within reason of course. The things that the majority of that minority typically end up doing for everyone are worth it.

2 Points.

1. Efficiency is always at the cost of human lives. Humans aren't built for efficiency and top efficiency will always cost lives. That's why humanity only works with a bunch of compromises. Like democracy, which is one of the least efficient forms of government, because it's just a compromise.

2. There is no evidence in the last 20000 years to support that the elites will do anything to properly advance or even handle humanity. In fact there is plenty of evidence against it, especially in the US. A meritocracy does not work and will not ever work. At least not if your goal is to bring a good life to a majority of people.

We already know that the Republicans have no interest to better the lives of the majority.



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vivster said:
EricHiggin said:

The smartest/most efficient of us, are a tiny minority. I'd think catering to them wouldn't be the worst idea. Give them more resources and keep them more free of politics, within reason of course. The things that the majority of that minority typically end up doing for everyone are worth it.

2 Points.

1. Efficiency is always at the cost of human lives. Humans aren't built for efficiency and top efficiency will always cost lives. That's why humanity only works with a bunch of compromises. Like democracy, which is one of the least efficient forms of government, because it's just a compromise.

2. There is no evidence in the last 20000 years to support that the elites will do anything to properly advance or even handle humanity. In fact there is plenty of evidence against it, especially in the US. A meritocracy does not work and will not ever work. At least not if your goal is to bring a good life to a majority of people.

We already know that the Republicans have no interest to better the lives of the majority.

The massive human population growth in the last century certainly isn't due to lack of efficiency. Too much efficiency is a problem, like I mentioned, it must be within reason and kept in check.

The elites have been in charge for quite some time. Over just the last century, life hasn't gotten better for people in general, not to mention the poorest of people? This is on top of massive population growth. I'm not saying it's perfect, but your reflection and outlook is extremely bleak compared to what's occurred.

Maybe better posed, what if both have little interest, just one is better at hiding it physically and verbally?