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colafitte said:
CGI-Quality said:

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The Last of Us is my favorite game ever and GOW is my game of the gen, and i still think these comparisons are absurd. You receive an award based in a pool of candidates to receive that award. If i'm an athelete that runs 100m and my time is 10'50 segs, i'm going to win against anybody that is not a professional athlete, and i will win many races, but if a compete against professional olympic athletes i'm going to be dead last.

Game of the Year is an award that identify the best game from a selection of the games that launched in a specific year, so the game that wins can't be separted from the rest of games that don't win. GOW it's game of the year 2019 against RDR2, AC Odyssey, Spiderman, Smash Bros, etc.......but only against them, not against TW3 or BOTW. I'm not "what if" anything. What i'm saying is that the only thing that you can compare is the games that participated in the same circumstances for the GOTY in 2019. Saying GOW surpassed Zelda BOTW for the most GOTY of the gen is more entering in the "what if" scenario than my opinion, because what you're doing here is "what if we compare how many GOTY's won the game that won the most from 2019 against any other from this gen?". What i'm saying is....don't do that.

All of this only serve for curious coincidences, but this thread is called "GOW becomes the most critically awarded this gen" and that is the kind of half truth that i always rant against. In this case, even if it's against my favorite game of the year.

Yes, you did "what if" in the previous post.

Still, I stand by what I said, and it has nothing to do with which games you prefer/don't prefer. These things makes sense to be compared with games that came before them. It didn't start with God of War and it won't end with it either. My analogies are the best things to consider — Ocarina of Time's 99 MC is no less valid than God of War's 94 MC, regardless of 22 reviews vs 118.



                                                                                                                                                           

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CGI-Quality said:
colafitte said:

The Last of Us is my favorite game ever and GOW is my game of the gen, and i still think these comparisons are absurd. You receive an award based in a pool of candidates to receive that award. If i'm an athelete that runs 100m and my time is 10'50 segs, i'm going to win against anybody that is not a professional athlete, and i will win many races, but if a compete against professional olympic athletes i'm going to be dead last.

Game of the Year is an award that identify the best game from a selection of the games that launched in a specific year, so the game that wins can't be separted from the rest of games that don't win. GOW it's game of the year 2019 against RDR2, AC Odyssey, Spiderman, Smash Bros, etc.......but only against them, not against TW3 or BOTW. I'm not "what if" anything. What i'm saying is that the only thing that you can compare is the games that participated in the same circumstances for the GOTY in 2019. Saying GOW surpassed Zelda BOTW for the most GOTY of the gen is more entering in the "what if" scenario than my opinion, because what you're doing here is "what if we compare how many GOTY's won the game that won the most from 2019 against any other from this gen?". What i'm saying is....don't do that.

All of this only serve for curious coincidences, but this thread is called "GOW becomes the most critically awarded this gen" and that is the kind of half truth that i always rant against. In this case, even if it's against my favorite game of the year.

Yes, you did "what if" in the previous post.

Still, I stand by what I said, and it has nothing to do with which games you prefer/don't prefer. These things makes sense to be compared with games that came before them. It didn't start with God of War and it won't end with it either. My analogies are the best things to consider — Ocarina of Time's 99 MC is no less valid than God of War's 94 MC, regardless of 22 reviews vs 113.

You're comparing apples to oranges now....XD. If you want to use Ocarina of time as an example, i will use it too. MGS would have won most GOTY that year (if they tracked things like this back then) if Ocarina of Time didn't released that year or never existed. That's my point. I'm not discussing the metascore of the games. What i'm saying is that the absolute number of GOTY you receive depends on the competion. So GOW will be the same great game if it receives 113 GOTYs or 250. That number is irrelevant to me. 



colafitte said:
CGI-Quality said:

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You're comparing apples to oranges now....XD. If you want to use Ocarina of time as an example, i will use it too. MGS would have won most GOTY that year (if they tracked things like this back then) if Ocarina of Time didn't released that year or never existed. That's my point. I'm not discussing the metascore of the games. What i'm saying is that the absolute number of GOTY you receive depends on the competion. So GOW will be the same great game if it receives 113 GOTYs or 250. That number is irrelevant to me. 

It is not apples to oranges at all (and you're clearly missing how it works into the point). It isn't about the Metascores themselves. The basis for your argument is validity. That "God of War's GOTY amount can't be compared to games that came before it..... because those games saw different levels of competition, less publication GOTY awards, etc... ". I'm saying that it doesn't work like that and the Metascore analogy pinpoints why. If the amount of reviews is irrelevant to the final number, than that is exactly my point. 

It doesn't matter how much competition a previous game saw, it won the amount of GOTY awards it did because it did. Matter of fact. Ocarina is a 99, God of War is a 94. Matter of fact. Doesn't matter how they got there. They're there. 

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CGI-Quality said:
colafitte said:

You're comparing apples to oranges now....XD. If you want to use Ocarina of time as an example, i will use it too. MGS would have won most GOTY that year (if they tracked things like this back then) if Ocarina of Time didn't released that year or never existed. That's my point. I'm not discussing the metascore of the games. What i'm saying is that the absolute number of GOTY you receive depends on the competion. So GOW will be the same great game if it receives 113 GOTYs or 250. That number is irrelevant to me. 

It is not apples to oranges at all (and you're clearly missing how it works into the point). It isn't about the Metascores themselves. The basis for your argument is validity. That "God of War's GOTY amount can't be compared to games that came before it..... because those games saw different levels of competition, less publication GOTY awards, etc... I'm saying that it doesn't work like that and the Metascore analogy pinpoints why. 

I don't understand why Metascore has anything to do with what i'm saying to be honest. I don't see how invalidates my point at all....

This thread was about GOW surpassing BOTW as the game with most GOTY's of this gen. I never mentioned GOW not being better than BOTW because any other reason. And what i said is that it doesn't mean anything more than a curiosity number. People can find it fun, or interesting, and what i'm saying is that this comparison doesn't have any more value for me than accepting that 190 is a bigger number than 189. For me GOW did not surpassed BOTW because they didn't compete in the same race.

The game that won the most GOTY of 2018 achieved more awards than the game that won the most GOTY in 2017. There is no more meaning behind that.

But ok, people can see what they want to see. I tried to explain my point of view the best way i can. I guess you can't expect everyone seeing the same things as you.



colafitte said:
CGI-Quality said:

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I don't understand why Metascore has anything to do with what i'm saying to be honest. I don't see how invalidates my point at all....

This thread was about GOW surpassing BOTW as the game with most GOTY's of this gen. I never mentioned GOW not being better than BOTW because any other reason. And what i said is that it doesn't mean anything more than a curiosity number. People can find it fun, or interesting, and what i'm saying is that this comparison doesn't have any more value for me than accepting that 190 is a bigger number than 189. For me GOW did not surpassed BOTW because they didn't compete in the same race.

The game that won the most GOTY of 2018 achieved more awards than the game that won the most GOTY in 2017. There is no more meaning behind that.

But ok, people can see what they want to see. I tried to explain my point of view the best way i can. I guess you can't expect everyone seeing the same things as you.

 You don't have to see it my way. You've argued for opinion (preferences for the games), where I have not, as it isn't relevant to anything. I'm simply telling you why you cannot write off the topic as invalid based on your variables. However, I'm happy to oblige and agree to disagree.



                                                                                                                                                           

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CGI-Quality said:
colafitte said:

I don't understand why Metascore has anything to do with what i'm saying to be honest. I don't see how invalidates my point at all....

This thread was about GOW surpassing BOTW as the game with most GOTY's of this gen. I never mentioned GOW not being better than BOTW because any other reason. And what i said is that it doesn't mean anything more than a curiosity number. People can find it fun, or interesting, and what i'm saying is that this comparison doesn't have any more value for me than accepting that 190 is a bigger number than 189. For me GOW did not surpassed BOTW because they didn't compete in the same race.

The game that won the most GOTY of 2018 achieved more awards than the game that won the most GOTY in 2017. There is no more meaning behind that.

But ok, people can see what they want to see. I tried to explain my point of view the best way i can. I guess you can't expect everyone seeing the same things as you.

 You don't have to see it my way. You've argued for opinion (preferences for the games), where I have not, as it isn't relevant to anything. I'm simply telling you why you cannot write off the topic as invalid based on your variables. However, I'm happy to oblige and agree to disagree.

Oh, the reason why i said i liked those games is because i suspect i was accused of being an "usual suspect" again, this time against PS4 and their games, which i find really funny...XD. Don't give more importance to that comment than i intended. 

But point taken. I guess you suffered today the dosis of arguing agaisnt me. I'm "duro de mollera" like we say in Spain...., i don't know how to say it in english. Let's say i'm "stubborn" yo say the least. But i was only giving my point of view. That's why i post here. I don't expect everybody to agree with me. Good lord, it would be really boring then.



All of those games could be played on a playstation except for Zelda.



Drakrami said:
All of those games could be played on a playstation except for Zelda.

I get what you're saying and I completely agree.

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Heavy Playstation bias to the point that I can't take anything on this list seriously and I am now going to live in a state of denial because of it!



Considering the landmark of RDR2 in the same year, that's saying something. Well done.

Watch TLOU2 go up for a rematch with GTA6, lol.

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