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Rab on 23 January 2019
jason1637 said:
Rab said:

Venezuela is a strong case against corrupt governments, Italy and France are still better in many ways than the US but also have serious political issues  

Democratic Socialism is just a frame work, it takes a competent stable Government to make it work as intended as generally seen in the Northern European countries  

I think relying on the government is very dangerous. It only takes one ruler to mess everything up. Also i dont believe the bs about how everything is better in Nordic countries. Everything costs more.

Except in Health Care, Education, Medicines, Social Services like childcare, more paid leave, better infrastructure, and income equality

It does cost more for the Rich in tax, but the Rich do also benefit living in a more equal society as the people around them generally have what they need, improving overall happiness and their own safety      



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HylianSwordsman on 23 January 2019

Yo. I have NEVER felt so well represented by a politician as I do now. Fucking MEWTWOKING is in the comments offering his services to teach the class!



jason1637 on 23 January 2019
Rab said:
jason1637 said:

I think relying on the government is very dangerous. It only takes one ruler to mess everything up. Also i dont believe the bs about how everything is better in Nordic countries. Everything costs more.

Except in Health Care, Education, Medicines, Social Services like childcare, more paid leave, better infrastructure, and income equality

It does cost more for the Rich in tax, but the Rich do also benefit living in a more equal society as the people around them generally have what they need, improving overall happiness and their own safety      

Health care in the US can be better, I'll give you that.

The US has some of the best schools in the world.

Medicine wise the US has some of the best doctors, scientists, and medical treatments/ treatment centers in the world .

Paid leave varies from where you work and honestly I think something like that should be left to the business someone works for. But on a federal level the US is improving on this.

Infrastructure is syllabus improving but atleast transportation is cheaper here.

I'm not really a fan of redistributing wealth so in my personal opinion I don't see that as a good thing 



NateH on 23 January 2019
Rab said:
think-man said:
I don't know who this person is xD

She triggers the establishment republicans and democrats no end, she will be big maybe even president one day as today's young emerge into politics   

Oh please. You sound like someone who hasn't followed politics very long. There's always these flavor of the months, like Jon Ossoff and Rob Miller. The list is endless. She'll be forgotten the second the Democratic primary kicks into gear and everyone starts focusing on that, then of course in 2020 it will be all Trump vs. whoever.



Rab on 23 January 2019
NateH said:
Rab said:

She triggers the establishment republicans and democrats no end, she will be big maybe even president one day as today's young emerge into politics   

Oh please. You sound like someone who hasn't followed politics very long. There's always these flavor of the months, like Jon Ossoff and Rob Miller. The list is endless. She'll be forgotten the second the Democratic primary kicks into gear and everyone starts focusing on that, then of course in 2020 it will be all Trump vs. whoever.

I think she will be different, I personally can only see her getting stronger as the more socialist/equality leaning youth of the US emerge to be voters 



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Bofferbrauer2 on 24 January 2019
GOWTLOZ said:
Rab said:

She triggers the establishment republicans and democrats no end, she will be big maybe even president one day as today's young emerge into politics   

Yeah by taxing the rich 70%. No I don't think so. If she does get elected and follows through with her demands, the US economy will be in shambles.

Only if they earn over 10M a year - and considering most executives get less money and get the rest in stock options, this won't hit many people apart from celebrities.



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Mr Puggsly on 24 January 2019
Rab said:
think-man said:
I don't know who this person is xD

She triggers the establishment republicans and democrats no end, she will be big maybe even president one day as today's young emerge into politics   

No. She's an idiot and her far left ideas aren't popular enough around the country.

She doesn't trigger republicans, they focus on her because she's an idiot. I mean the dems attacked Trump for his lack of experience and understanding of politics. Meanwhile the dems appear to love a person that's came in seemingly oblivious to government and economics.



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Mr Puggsly on 24 January 2019
Bofferbrauer2 said:
GOWTLOZ said:

Yeah by taxing the rich 70%. No I don't think so. If she does get elected and follows through with her demands, the US economy will be in shambles.

Only if they earn over 10M a year - and considering most executives get less money and get the rest in stock options, this won't hit many people apart from celebrities.

The real problem is they wouldn't just heavily tax people who make over 10 million.

When that doesn't generate the revenue they need to fund more entitlements, everybody gets taxed more.



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Mr Puggsly on 24 January 2019
Rab said:
jason1637 said:

I think relying on the government is very dangerous. It only takes one ruler to mess everything up. Also i dont believe the bs about how everything is better in Nordic countries. Everything costs more.

Except in Health Care, Education, Medicines, Social Services like childcare, more paid leave, better infrastructure, and income equality

It does cost more for the Rich in tax, but the Rich do also benefit living in a more equal society as the people around them generally have what they need, improving overall happiness and their own safety      

Your argument is also why I don't support left wing ideologies in the US.

Our government is incredibly inefficient with the money it receives from tax payers to fund entitlements. The solution is never get better at spending, its simply higher taxes. Why would I support that?



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TruckOSaurus on 24 January 2019

Since the OP asked for it, I'm going to close this thread.



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