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Are you expecting to be blown away by Days Gone?

Yes 37 39.78%
 
No 56 60.22%
 
Total:93

I saw the latest gameplay video. I really hope that's not all you do. If they can implement good base building that would make it a lot more interesting.




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For me is day 1



EricHiggin said:
twintail said:

Well, I never claimed it was solely to make the game better/ more polished, but that your argument that Sony might want to limit the scope of the game was without merit.

It's a bit ridiculous to ask me how much money hey have used; how would I know? And sure, it could easily have been delayed for that reason but we actually have Sony saying it was done to further polish the game, and we have the latest demo showing being 7 month old builds, meaning they have not had the time to make new demo builds of the game.

I think it would matter when it launches because we are talking about the game being delayed to be polished and made better, therefore it is/ was not in a state that was good enough to release until it's new launch date of April.

That is a pretty poor analogy but i don't exactly agree with that analogy. Besides being post-apocalyptic and with an emphasis on zombies (which themselves are not even that related) both games aren't even remotely the same. Days Gone will do fine. TloU2 will do more than fine regardless of when Days Gone and itself releases.

No, but you didn't offer any other explanation so how I was supposed to know you possibly thought there was more to it? Why was it without merit? You didn't provide anything solid to back that up. Just because PS said is was for polish doesn't mean much when PS has said plenty of things and done the opposite not long afterwards, and fairly recently at that. You mentioned they put in more money. It makes a massive difference whether it's 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. Just because they haven't had demo time doesn't mean they've been spending the majority of their time on Days Gone.

If I were PS, even if I were launching TLOU2, I wouldn't allow it to launch around the same time as a COD or GTA or RDR game, etc. Your just asking to be overshadowed to some degree. That's money lost for almost no reason. You might as well launch slightly later and have the spotlight and sales to yourself. That's why I said sleeper in the first place. The game probably has a lot more to it, we just aren't seeing it right now. Days Gone and TLOU2 are different but are much more the same than the majority of other games, launching around this time frame, and in this case by SIE themselves. Both should do just fine, but some of that will no doubt be due to strategic launch positioning.

tbqh you introduced the idea that the delay was solely for improvements, I didn't. I was merely remarking on your idea that Sony doesn't want the game to be all it can be.

I can at least substantiate my claim, you can't. Just because you don't accept the potential reasoning based on evidence we have is not my problem. But you making baseless claims that Sony might want to limit Days Gone because they want to prop up TloU2 doesn't even make sense, when we consider that TLou2 is a sequel to a 15 million (and still selling) game.

As for TloU2 launching next to other big games (first you claimed DG, now TLoU2?), we are talking about completely different games. Can sales be limited at first? Yeah perhaps, but that is not always the case.

Either way, DG will not be affected by TloU2 and vice versa.



I don't mind these type of open world Zombie games. But i do feel its going to be troubled with linear paths and QTE style story telling.
The concept of running from 1000s of zombies is cool but will fall short with no Multiplayer/co-op mode. This is a type of game to play with friends backing you up and yet they opted for a solo appoach. That saddens me.



twintail said:
EricHiggin said:

No, but you didn't offer any other explanation so how I was supposed to know you possibly thought there was more to it? Why was it without merit? You didn't provide anything solid to back that up. Just because PS said is was for polish doesn't mean much when PS has said plenty of things and done the opposite not long afterwards, and fairly recently at that. You mentioned they put in more money. It makes a massive difference whether it's 1 dollar or 1 million dollars. Just because they haven't had demo time doesn't mean they've been spending the majority of their time on Days Gone.

If I were PS, even if I were launching TLOU2, I wouldn't allow it to launch around the same time as a COD or GTA or RDR game, etc. Your just asking to be overshadowed to some degree. That's money lost for almost no reason. You might as well launch slightly later and have the spotlight and sales to yourself. That's why I said sleeper in the first place. The game probably has a lot more to it, we just aren't seeing it right now. Days Gone and TLOU2 are different but are much more the same than the majority of other games, launching around this time frame, and in this case by SIE themselves. Both should do just fine, but some of that will no doubt be due to strategic launch positioning.

tbqh you introduced the idea that the delay was solely for improvements, I didn't. I was merely remarking on your idea that Sony doesn't want the game to be all it can be.

I can at least substantiate my claim, you can't. Just because you don't accept the potential reasoning based on evidence we have is not my problem. But you making baseless claims that Sony might want to limit Days Gone because they want to prop up TloU2 doesn't even make sense, when we consider that TLou2 is a sequel to a 15 million (and still selling) game.

As for TloU2 launching next to other big games (first you claimed DG, now TLoU2?), we are talking about completely different games. Can sales be limited at first? Yeah perhaps, but that is not always the case.

Either way, DG will not be affected by TloU2 and vice versa.

I never introduced that, you did in reply to my initial post. Your the one arguing it's mostly for improvements, or your argument makes no sense.

I didn't claim PS was holding back with Days Gone, I said "I wonder". Maybe they might have, maybe not, who knows? So every sequel to a successful new IP is guaranteed success?

I claimed neither. I was simply pointing out that bad decisions are bad decisions. If I told you I would give you $2,000 every day for two weeks straight, starting today, or you could wait just one week and then I'd give you $5,000 per day for a week instead, which would you pick? Assuming you don't desperately need any money you can get your hands on this instant, picking the $2,000 now option would be the wrong business choice. PS isn't desperate for money, has it's content gaps filled, and is the market leader by miles, so they'll just wait for the bigger payout overall when the time is right.

Well DG could be effected by TLOU2 if it launches sooner than later and is a much better game overall, because people who haven't bought into DG yet may very well skip it at that point. TLOU2 probably doesn't have to worry all that much unless it ends up a total train wreck, and that's pretty darn unlikely with ND at the helm.



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Heavenly_King said:
For me is day 1

Well, after reading all the info available about this Game, I'm intrigued;  it should be a Day 1 for me as well.

INFO


Release Info :

Single player only

Releases April 26 2019

Developer - SIE Bend Studio

Has been in development for over 6 years

Days Gone was Bends first idea after making Uncharted Golden Abyss

Team has more than double in size since 2016 (Over 100 developers)

Game engine utilises Unreal Engine 4

Approximately 30 hours length on the golden path (main story only)

There is only one difficulty setting and it's not easy

The open world that most influenced the developers was RDR

You can still play the game after you beat it

No load times going in and out of buildings or going between regions

You can turn off the XP pop up on the HUD

 

Story

 

The game takes place only 2 years after the global pandemic

The game follow 3 stories, Deacon, Deacon's relationship with Boozer and NERO Response Organization that is researching the infection

Plot is about surviving, not finding a cure

The game has multiple endings depending on player choice

Freaker Ears are currency of the world

Freakers will mutate throughout as the story progresses

 

Missions

 

Freaker-ear bounties

Hunting animals

Camps to clear

Flashback missions (where you learn about Deacon's past with Sarah)

No fetch quests or time trials, everything has context

 

The World

 

Days Gone is set in the state of Oregon

There are 6 different regions in the game,from dense alpine forest, lush meadows to desert lava fields, ancient lava caves,badlands, and snow fields

99% of the buildings are enterable (Or all are, I'm seeing conflicting reports)

The open world wont be fully available to explore at the beginning as the story progresses areas are unlocked. At some point the whole map will be available

You dont climb towers to reveal the map you find maps in bunkers, although there are towers you can climb

Yes the game has fast travel you have to unlock it first by clearing out Freaker nests

Nero Checkpoints has all kinds of useful stuff for you but first you have to get inside each one is a puzzle

The game has small/large towns to explore

You can explore ski lodges, mountain resorts, and golf courses

Players can collect historical markers spread throughout the map this is bits of lore from Oregon’s pioneer past. This is all real stuff

The game has real world landmarks for getting around like Mount Bachelor, Mount Washington, and Three Fingered Jack

 

Environment

 

There are over 1200 dynamic events in the world most want to kill you

You can get hurt by falling

You can use your environment to do unique melee kills like smashing a freakers head against a saw

You can use your environment to your advantage like triggering a bomb to let log piles toll on freakers

Wood bridges can crumble if too many freakers are on it

You can hide in trash bins

There is a lot of collectables and loot

Police cars are like the treasure chest of the world where you can find ammo and health kits (newts are also known to hide in them)

Cars may be alarmed

 

Weather

 

The game has a day night cycle with different weather patterns such as rain,and snow.

Living beings are taken shelter while snowing

While it's snowing and raining visibility is reduced and enhance stealth for the players and enemies

The bike controls differently while snowing and raining.

Sounds are reduced while raining

Camps behave differently according to the weather for example on a sunny day they build a circle and watch two members fight each other and while snowing they are patroling

The freakers densitiy is higher while raining and you will find more swarms

While snowing there are less freakers and but are more spread out across the map

 

Camps

 

Deacon can scout camps with binoculars

Taking out Ambush camps makes that part of the world safer decreasing ambushes

Relationships are important

 

Deacon St. John

 

Deacon is the enforcer of a biker club called the Mongrels

Deacon has three main skill trees: ranged combat, melee combat, and survival.

You can upgrade his Health, stamina and Focus using Nero Tech

Deacon has "survival vision" which highlights items of interest, can be upgraded to highlight enemies

You can craft different Health items,traps,explosives you can also craft different bolts for the CrossBow

You can even make bolt that makes the freakers frenzy and attack each other

You can get skills like Focus which slows down time

Deacon changes clothes as the story progress ( you cant change it yourself)

Deacon flips his cap for reasons in the story as you play

He can swim but he wont do it, something related to the story

Deacon the ability to sleep and skip night (unknown if this is only a story related function)

You can switch shoulders (camera)

Deacon has a mercenary friend named Boozer, if you steal from him it can affect your friendship

Deacons stamina, health, time slowdown are upgradable

Deacon will pinch his nose if the stench is unbearable

You are more silent in the rain

There are dialogue choices

 

Deacons Bike

 

The bike breaks down and runs out of gas so you need it fix and refuel it.

You can upgrade the bike in 20 different categories such as the exhaust system,engine,frame,fuel tank,tires,suspension,storage space,nitrous and others

You can paint the bike any color you want

You can store ammo on your bike

You bike makes alot of noise it will attract enemies

If you left you bike in the wild you either have to go get it or have someone from one of the camps bring it to you.

Can increase fuel efficiency and durability, swap out tires based on weather

The ground on which you drive can wear off the bike to a different degree. (it wears off faster in a forest than driving on the road for example)

You can add a muffler to your bike to reduce noise output and be more stealthier

 

The Freakers

 

Freaker are infected adults, newts are infected children

You will encounter several such as the Swamers, Newts who love high places they will only attack if you low on health or are near them,Screamers will alert freakers in the area and of course the Hordes

Freakers are stronger in the cold and hide when the sun is out,they will come out if its stars raining though

Freakers can be attracted by gun sound even from a noticable distance

Freakers are alive, think and need to sleep, drink and eat

Not all freakers are known, Breaker for example has been mentioned but not seen

Freakers will eat and attack anything including their own

You can use Freakers against other enemies like leading to a camp of marauders

Freakers are drawn to dark places such as tunnels and will make nests

Freakers hibernate at daytime

Freaker can run faster than you

 

Hordes

 

There are roaming hordes that can be found anywhere

A 300 freaker horde is considered small (The E3 2016 demo horde was 500 strong)

Hordes need to eat, sleep, and drink.

 

Human Enemies

 

These include drifters, marauders, militia and rival bikers

Rippers are an enemy gang that worships freakers, they will not attack the freakers even if they are being attack by them

They will set up variety of ambushes, like a clothesline as you driving across the road or pushing cars down hills at him .They even hide in trees to try to snip you.

They will not call for back or anything like that but the noise can attract Freakers

Enemies could push cars down on you

 

Animals

 

Not all animals are infected

Infected animals include Runners which are wolves ,Criers which are crows and Rager which are the bears

Wolves can outrun your bike

 

Weapons

 

Weapons include handguns, rifles, shotguns, LMG's, crossbows, melee weapons

Explosive includes gas cans, molotovs, napalm, grenades, proximity mines

There are different types of bolts for your crossbow like fire or berserker bolts (making enemies turn on each other)

You can find blueprints for new weapons

Weapons have different conditions and rarity, weapons found in the open will be worse then weapons you buy from camps.

Weapons you buy from camps will be added to your locker you can always get them from there.

Weapons can be upgraded with stuff like extended magazines

You can get a makeshift silencer from vehicles

Weapons lockers and safehouses can be used to refill ammo

There are different types of traps like a bear trap



”Every great dream begins with a dreamer. Always remember, you have within you the strength, the patience, and the passion to reach for the stars to change the world.”

Harriet Tubman.

JRPGfan said:

"Days Gone looks really meh" - OP

I really like certain aspects of it, such as you need to observe the enviroment, and plan ahead, and use stealth mechanics to sneak around and set traps, before takeing on hoards and the like. Certain things about it make it very differnt from most other shooter games.

So I dont agree with you, that it seems like a "meh", I think this game will be a hidden gem, with how much people seem to underestimate it.

 

PwerlvlAmy said:
I think this games score will be 72-75, not bad but not great, just rather mediocre, one that will be easily forgettable. Collectors edition looks kinda cool tho

I think it will surprise people, and endup with a 80+ metascore.

What you said describes a lot of shooters. There are a ton of games which reward player choice in dealing with objectives which has become boring.

I do see it as an 80 and above on metacritic just because it looks like a competent game with solid mechanics with the recent celebration of single player games with no microtransactions.

collint0101 said:
Looks like Sony's new super Mario bros. A dime a dozen generic version of something they make all the time. Nintendo makes a ton of 2d platformers with NSMB being the most bland and cookie cutter of the bunch and Sony makes a lot of 3rd person cinematic shooters with days gone looking like an ok enough entry

A lot of third person shooters? Like what? Uncharted and The Last of Us are the only other two.

Cerebralbore101 said:
Honestly, I just trust Sony to be able to handle their first party studios at this point. And the game has been in development for 7 years. So if it comes out with a mediocre Opencritic score of 75 to 77, I'll be a little surprised.

Nintendo with their greater experience still makes mediocre games so Sony can and do as well. Look at Uncharted 4.



That samurai game looks more interesting iMHO, but that just shows how well Sony has done with exclusives this gen. Hell I still need to get Horizon



GOWTLOZ said: 
Cerebralbore101 said:
Honestly, I just trust Sony to be able to handle their first party studios at this point. And the game has been in development for 7 years. So if it comes out with a mediocre Opencritic score of 75 to 77, I'll be a little surprised.

Nintendo with their greater experience still makes mediocre games so Sony can and do as well. Look at Uncharted 4.

He was talking scores, with Uncharted 4 being one of the highest rated exclusives of the gen. 



                                                                                                             

CGI-Quality said:
GOWTLOZ said: 

Nintendo with their greater experience still makes mediocre games so Sony can and do as well. Look at Uncharted 4.

He was talking scores, with Uncharted 4 being one of the highest rated exclusives of the gen. 

If just looking at scores there are even more of those, Knack 2 being the most recent.